***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Merge)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, April 03, 06:40:52 ET 2014
Table Hyper Turbo 110 (76428604) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( 340 ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 15, 3B: 3, AF: 3.8, Hands: 265
Seat 3: Player3 ( 455 ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 24, 3B: 5, AF: 0.0, Hands: 67
Seat 4: Player4 ( 360 ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.7, Hands: 67
Seat 5: Player5 ( 395 ) - VPIP: 37, PFR: 19, 3B: 5, AF: 4.4, Hands: 777
Seat 6: Hero ( 250 ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2.9, Hands: 139288
Player5 posts small blind [20].
Hero posts big blind [40].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ac 8c ]
Player1 raises [340]
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Hero ??

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Merge)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, April 03, 06:42:32 ET 2014
Table Hyper Turbo 110 (76428659) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 2: Hero ( 400 ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2.9, Hands: 139288
Seat 3: Player3 ( 380 ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 1.5, Hands: 447
Seat 5: Player5 ( 505 ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 6, 3B: 3, AF: 4.0, Hands: 204
Seat 6: Player6 ( 515 ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 2, 3B: 0, AF: 0.8, Hands: 43
Hero posts small blind [25].
Player3 posts big blind [50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 3h As ]
Player5 folds
Player6 calls [50]
Hero ??

call
fold unless a big part of that vpip/pfr gap is limp, and even then prob need axs. Ugh 2 pfr way too trappy
65/35 yeah?

correct 65/35
hand 1
interested on calling with the A8s may i ask how u come to that conclusion?
im being laid 1.48:1 (40%) and my hand has a 3% edge vs villains range but i believe that edge is not enough after icm tax not sure havent done the math.

is calling +/- EV?

would it be correct or isnt it ideal to take a neg edge here as the ss 5 handed?

i folded in game because i believed his utg opening shoving range to more top heavy in that spot. mistake?

hand 2
BTN limps r weird. is he srsly limping TT there

You have to call with a range, yes its near the bottom of your range but you just need to hope you're up against the bottom of his range and you might even be winning.

i respectfully disagree with that thought process

Well if u think he folds all the suited broadways except kjs+ , kq, and 33-77 then fold. Personally i think most people are jamming most of them hands in this spot and that makes it a call.

with this player type i dnt see any kings in there maybe KQs or pairs below 66
his pfr is 15 so EP pfr im assuming is gunna be like 6-8

If thats the range you think hes jamming then its ok to fold. Also remember that he will be jamming wider the shorter he gets and most hands in huds are from early in the game and hes jamming from MP not EP.

there is no hope. we only try n make +EV decisions

we have reads. u cannot put a blanket over opponents

thank you ill make sure to keep that in mind

that is why you filter your HUD and UTG is EP in my book

lets figure this out
NASH RANGES
Level: 20/40
Structure 65% 35%
Players 5
Player Stack Push%
UTG 340 19.8=22+ A2s+ ATo+ K9s+ KTo+ Q9s+ QJo J9s+ T9s
Call%
HERO 250 10.7=44+ A8s+ ATo+ KQs

we need to be calling with 13.04% edge vs villains range
Villain is tighter than nash therefore...

EQUILAB RANGES
Player Stack Push%
UTG 340 19.8=(66+,A4s+,K8s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,J To)
CALL%
HERO 250 10.7=(77+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,ATo+,KQo)

we need to be calling with 13.62% edge vs villains range

so if villains open shoving his entire range 15%
this should be our calling range acc. to
HMR = 9.5%(55+, A9s+, ATo+)
EQL = 8% (88+,ATs+,KTs+,QJs,AJo+)

but in game i assumed he was range was pretty polarized because hes not spazzy and is positionally aware and id be shocked to see anything in his range other that 88+AQs+AKo

but more importantly wats up with the diff ranges from different calcs?

Love all the sarcasm and especially this quote "that is why you filter your HUD and UTG is EP in my book".

Almost as good as barreling the turn after the flops checked. I wouldn't mind a copy of this book, seems like a good read

dnt take offence sarcasm is my langauge lol
take it as constructive criticism

We cant know you filter your HUD and also how, if you dont tell that.

If you wanna know if the A8 is a call, Id try looking at against what ranges it would be a call and then call if I believe villain is one a range like that.

Id fold A8 vs some and call vs some, A3o isnt a shove, can be a limp or a fold.

in a 1 or 2 dollar super turbo, that is a quite tight assigned range, no? the pusher has 8.5bb with 3 players behind him. I don't think the tightest player in those games is shoving that tight in that spot. u don't think he's shoving ace ten, 44, things of the like?

ok maybe if hes feeling courageous 66+ AJo+ ATs+ but weaker than that like A5-8, 44-66 KQ and watever else catches his eye hes most likely limping

correction villain has 4 left to act behind