only 13 hands on him, he'd been quiet.
just wanted to check this was standard.

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UTG: t289400 M = 13.78
UTG+1: t161381 M = 7.68
UTG+2: t181916 M = 8.66
MP1: t171400 M = 8.16
MP2: t163578 M = 7.79
Hero (CO): t181676 M = 8.65
BTN: t170468 M = 8.12
SB: t122700 M = 5.84
BB: t284441 M = 13.54

Pre Flop: (t21000) Hero is CO with Q T
5 folds, Hero raises to t17250, 2 folds, BB calls t9250

Flop: (t47500) 9 6 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero bets t38855, BB raises to t94875, Hero raises to t163426 all in

cbet is to big and i'd fold to a flop raise.
i dont think that we are priced in here.

did not see the double gutter as well
umm close.. again, he has blockers to overs in his range/stronger draws that steal some outs/sets
prolly not much straights tho

am I missing something?

we only have a gutshot and overs right? not even a BD flush draw...so where is the all kinds of $#% referenced in the title

edit: oh a double gutter...still all that does is tempt me to check to back

Seems we have no reads, almost no hand equity and probably very little fold equity

also why such a big C bet?

double gutshot and overs

guess the big cbet was kind of to discourage him from making some crazy CR bluff and then being committed to call, also maybe fold out some of his weaker made hands. prolly not the best plan now i look back on it, but it was like 3am so meh.

perhaps checking back would've been the best plan, it's not like he's going to be c/c'ing much on a board this drawy.

Well, are you getting into metagame and thinking that maybe he is only c/ring you because you hesitated on the flop (which you would probably never do with a hand like QQ+, unless you were requesting time a lot)? If you are betting here, it is to get him to fold right now because he almost certainly has a better hand than you since you have nothing except some draws and weak overs...when he raises you gotta fold. I actually don't hate a bet/fold here because I doubt he's c/ring you with hands that he is unwilling to go all the way with.

we need ~36% to break even

Board: 9d 6c 8c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.081% 39.01% 02.10% 29984096 1614863.50 { QhTh }
Hand 1: 58.919% 56.85% 02.10% 43704730 1614863.50 { 99-66, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac7c, J9s+, T9s, JTo, T9o }


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.820% 41.47% 02.35% 14842352 841798.00 { QhTh }
Hand 1: 56.180% 53.83% 02.35% 19266381 841799.50 { 77-66, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac7c, J9s+, T9s, JTo, T9o }


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.080% 26.32% 01.76% 6890231 462023.50 { QhTh }
Hand 1: 71.920% 70.16% 01.76% 18369047 462023.50 { TT-66, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc }



thoughts on ranges?

i'd imagine you could take 99 out for sure, maybe 88 too. though maybe i'm being guilty of thinking of randoms' shoving ranges as being too wide.
also if you're going to include T9o surely you should be including stuff like 98s, 87s, 97s etc?

depends. you said he was tight, should rather take out T9o, no?
also added more ranges. 99 prolly is a 3bet for him
see range two

I'm checking this flop...the flop hits his range if he's loose and puts us behind if he's tight.

Next time don't post all the flop action and I can be sure I'm not jaded by seeing it.

On one hand we could bet a marginal draw on a board that's very bad for c-betting and risk all our chips with just enough equity to price ourselves in. Or we could check back the flop and try to hit one of fourteen cards that would be good for us and play perfectly regardless of what happens.

Don't get me wrong, I bet a lot on the spur of the moment. But it's still awful.

As played looks fine. Definately getting allin on this flop. There is a lot already in the pot, and you have 14 outs against a pair. Like betting large and getting allin better than checking behind. Might just open push the flop.

Yeah in pos I like checking this flop a lot since imo getting it in is probably +ev but not super awesome, and its not hard to c/r this flop. Free card plus you can rep a bunch of things, and usually he'll still c/f AJ/KQ type stuff