Villain is 5/4 but that was mostly through the original stages. He's amped it up and shoved QJss from the cutoff into AK and sucked out. He pushed again here 2? hands later. Is this a fold?

Poker Stars $670+$30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 6 players
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UTG: t2465
MP: t850
CO: t1767
BTN: t1935
Hero (SB): t2323
BB: t4160

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with 8 8
UTG raises to t2465 all in, 3 folds, Hero calls t2223 all in, 1 fold

Flop: (t4846) 2 T 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t4846) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t4846) 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Unless he is on ATC I guess this is a clear fold. Somehow I like to think that a 5/4 villain isn't on ATC here.

this call is terrible

What range do we want to call here? TT+ AQ+?

KK+

yea, maybe JJ+, AQ+

I dont play steps but this seems pretty bad, I'd say JJ, AK, w/o looking but even that could be a little loose.

JJ+

You should have called Button with 88 if he pushed, but not UTG... For UTG it's TT+, AK for me.
And 5/4 can't be applied to the level where blinds are 100/200. Don't even think of these stats.

QQ+ , maybe JJ or AK.

If he's late position, JJ and Ak are easier, maybe 1010.

According to the Nash eq calculator, he should be shoving 18.3% (any pair, ATo, A4s, QJ, 98s etc) and hero should be calling 2.6%, which is TT+, AKs. It's pretty impressive how close everyone's intuition is to the calculated answer. Several posters were a little tighter than this, which is probably right because villain probably isn't shoving as wide as 18.3% - for example he's probably not shoving QJ even though Nash says he should.

With a normal STT payout structure it changes only slightly - now you can call with AKo. Makes sense - in normal STT there's no extra "ouch" for busting out in 6th and some extra benefit for accumulating a big pile of chips, so it's worth rolling the dice slightly more with AKo, but you're still gunning to survive to 3rd place.

TT+ is prob ok, id typicall discount AA/KK out of his range here alot of times and JJ is a snap call. i see tags doing this more with AQ/AK/88-QQ, and TT has 53% equity against that range, even with KK + AA in his range we still have 47% equity with TT so a call is still ok.

from this info i don't think we can reduce his range further then top 10-25%.

Stack sizes make this a clear fold with payout structure.

I'd probably call QQ+. I can pass AK here (until I've earned my replay at least).

QQ+ seems about right here.

88 is just terrible, what do you think he's pushing here??

i still find it weird alot of people are folding JJ in this spot.. TT is tricky though but like i said it would depend on the player with TT. but JJ is snap call imo.

QJs from cuttoff justifies call of utg shove 12bb with bare eights? Oo
If this push has same +EV as CO shove his range probably doesnt even include eights at all.

Also 5/4. I mean..