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08-10-2008 , 11:40 AM

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Jossl

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 270

on 60s I often fold AQ pf in this situation....and there is no way u can call the push on the river.

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08-10-2008 , 12:35 PM

#27

Scotty_12

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Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,359

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Originally Posted by eurythmech

What kind of money do you make w/ AQo UTG 9-handed lvl 3?

The kind that is fun to spend?

The riv is a clear fold tho, he can have so many 2 pair aces and stupid 45 defending things plus sets. You need him bluffing or having A6,7,8,T,J which would just be really lucky for you

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08-10-2008 , 02:03 PM

#28

eurythmech

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Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,275

Scotty, I'm merely interested in seeing how clear a raise AQo is for suzzer, or anyone. No need for silliness.

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08-10-2008 , 02:22 PM

#29

suzzer99

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 100,415

So are we calling if he bets pot on the river?

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08-10-2008 , 02:32 PM

#30

sippin_criss

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,773

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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat

Looks like a set that knows you hit your ace on the river.

looooll. thx tips. I fold AQo utg a lot esp with a shortish stack. I'd call the river if I was tilting, then I'd go on worse tilt even before I saw the results.

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08-10-2008 , 02:42 PM

#31

_Towelie_

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,771

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Originally Posted by AMT

open folding AQ in L3 is a leak.

I can't find a raise here at a full table. I definitely raise if we're 6-handed, I think 7-handed would be a marginal raise. I have no math to back this up fwiw, just my gut-feel.

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08-11-2008 , 01:40 AM

#32

illusion

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Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 93

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Originally Posted by Glitlr

Man people and their goddamn river shoves. I'm tilty from this happening twice in back to back posts. haha. Fold it

Does anybody muck AQo utg full table preflop?

Yes, when playing the lower stakes and especially within the first few blind levels.

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08-11-2008 , 02:31 AM

#33

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,656

On lower stakes AQ has much more value then on higher stakes lol, folding it there is very bad.

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08-11-2008 , 06:29 AM

#34

BicVicTheQuick

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 590

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Originally Posted by Q..

On lower stakes AQ has much more value then on higher stakes lol, folding it there is very bad.

This is def. true! I'm raising AQ at the 16's/27's without thinking about it twice from any postition. At the 38's I raise it mostly. I havn't played a $60 tournament so far but I really believe that these hands loose a lot of value cuz you simply won't stack that many ppl. whith Ax type of hands on A high flops. I think the same is true for set-mining BTW. At higher buy-ins ppl. don't seem to stack off that often with TPTK type of hands or overpairs.

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08-11-2008 , 06:30 AM

#35

futuredoc85

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I think you guys who are talking about how solid people play at $60s+ haven't played enough of them

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08-11-2008 , 09:27 AM

#36

Staafy

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,837

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Originally Posted by futuredoc85

I think you guys who are talking about how solid people play at $60s+ haven't played enough of them

lol so true, but at least half the table at a $60 knows not to call utg raises with AJ.
Leaks are more like ZOMG he raises 60% of his buttons, I am gonna trap him with AK and then they end up calling 2 barrels on flop and turn with overs.

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08-11-2008 , 09:30 AM

#37

Staafy

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,837

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Originally Posted by BicVicTheQuick

This At higher buy-ins ppl. don't seem to stack off that often with TPTK type of hands or overpairs.

nit

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08-11-2008 , 02:03 PM

#38

Glitlr

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,682

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Originally Posted by AMT

open folding AQ in L3 is a leak.

this is a fold though probably, unless you know he's a ******.

ugh, when I said I'd open fold AQo utg, I was talking about lvl 1 and lvl 2 blinds. My mistake for not clarifying. Do you feel folding at these levels is a leak too?

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