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11-13-2007 , 02:35 PM

runhot

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standard?

other option i guess make it 375, call shove from co/btn/bb, but not SB?

Poker Stars, $55 + $5 NL Hold'em Tournament, 75/150 Blinds, 7 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: 1,340
SB: 3,105
BB: 1,325
UTG: 1,695
UTG+1: 2,075
Hero (MP): 2,890
CO: 1,070

Pre-Flop: (225) 5

dealt to Hero (MP)
2 folds, hero folds

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11-13-2007 , 02:38 PM

darinvg

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I just fold too. With stacks I'd say open w/ ~ 77+ (only 88 if we were shorter). I'd raise 55 in the CO and maybe CO+1. I guess we are CO+1 so a raise is fine but I don't think folding is bad.

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11-13-2007 , 06:19 PM

Scotty_12

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I think thats good advice ... I would probably fold also

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11-14-2007 , 10:03 AM

RexWoo

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I fold too. There is no value here with 55.

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11-14-2007 , 12:08 PM

wbmustang

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Explain RexWoo how is there no value in 55 right there?

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11-14-2007 , 12:57 PM

RexWoo

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Well.

1. pushing is -EV

2. raising 375

If CO, Btn, BB push you have to call and are probably in a good situation to lose 1000-1300 chips most of the time.
+ winning 1000 chips is good but not great here.

If SB push / reraise, you fold.

If someone call, same situation than a push vs worse stacks (except sometime you only lose your raise (375).

If SB calls you will probably lose or win a small pot.

3. limp

You will have to fold to any probable raise, you don't have the impleid odds for a set (except vs SB) and your hand does not play well post flop.

4. fold

Profit !

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11-14-2007 , 01:07 PM

wbmustang

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Thanks for the explanation

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11-14-2007 , 01:24 PM

Takeover_inc

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I fold mid pairs a lot in the mid stages just because i feel like they are so hard to play with shallow stacks. I hate all the possible outcomes besides getting called and i flop a set, which happens not so often.

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