Full Tilt Poker $55 + $5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40/t80 Blinds - 9 players

UTG: t1135
UTG+1: t1755
UTG+2: t1590
Hero (MP1): t1335
MP2: t1735
CO: t650
BTN: t1320
[b]SB: t2740
BB: t1240

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is MP1 with K K
3 folds, Hero raises to t160, 2 folds, BTN calls t160, SB calls t120, 1 fold

Flop: (t560) 6 Q Q (3 players)
SB bets t240, Hero calls t240, BTN folds

Turn: (t1040) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (t1040) K (2 players)
SB bets t160, Hero? (stack: 935)

No notes on him and I don't remember his stats, so assume he's a random. I know for a fact he's not a good reg and I also know I don't have a significant sample size on him.

Preflop: I don't want to debate the minraise. 2.5x is my standard but I have been experimenting.

Flop: 3-handed I don't think he ever leads out with a queen, but raising accomplishes nothing. We also have to look out for btn.

Turn: Obvious check

River: I have no idea what his minbet means. The only hand that makes sense at this point is a FD or KJ or something? Should we shove or make a smaller raise?

Edit: For those that don't want to do the math, I have 935 on the river.

shove? nh i mean u just dont have much behind at this point

I figured he will probably shove over a small raise if he does have a flush and probably a queen as well, so there's little value lost if we make a small raise but a lot of extra value if he wants to call with KJ/a random ace or something that he'd be folding to a shove

i honestly dont think he will reship a flush over a small raise. but def will be call ai if u do shove. and he may get curious

okay so you dont want any advice on any other part of the hand but the river?

i mean, he stacks his pp's on the flop so i raise to stack him here instead of having to play weak on a ton of turn cards, plus the pot is plent big now on the flop, ez shove here.

river is also a super ez shove b/c he has worse that snapcall.

Raise the flop and shove the river, anything else looks very strong.

Raising the flop accomplishes quite a bit, actually. By smooth calling, you are giving the button something like 4.5 to 1 odds to call. He has an easy call with any flush draw. You should price him out, not be pricing him in.

On the river, anything other than a push is leaving money on the table.
All made flushes which will simply call a smaller bet will also call the larger one.

You guys really think he gets it in on the flop with a PP? I think he very well fold to a reraise as even bad players know it's a higher pp or queen a huge portion of the time, but I guess smaller PPs aren't really going to be 2-barreling here ever and it's going to be hard to get extra value. Didn't really thinking about pricing out BTN though.

I like shoving river, was just wondering if we could try to squeeze a little value out of kings/aces. I still do think that 90% of randoms will shove any flush here on the river.

Bet sizing on flop anyone?

It's not all about extracting value, it's also about protecting from the FD and overcard with 2 others in the pot.

Given your PF raise, AXhh is not an unreasonable holding and it's 40% to beat you by the river. I'm not saying we should assume there is a FD out there, but it's worth considering.

I think cold calling flop and getting it in on non A/h turn is fine. As played, shoooove. Worse will pay. Villains most likely holdings are Qx and hh and you beat both.

I shove here every time for sure for the aforementioned reasons. The range of hands that he's capable of calling river raises with in this spot are relatively strong, and while your line looks strong as well, you're really not shoving for some insane amount. He can definitely look you up here with a lot of 2nd best holdings IMO. There's just not a smaller raise that's going to get called so much more often to the point that it makes us more money vs. most than a shove seems like it would.

It seems to me that the river is the street with the least to talk about!

shove cos he calls with Qx, a flush and prob a lot of Ax's as well?

easy shove - he makes a very defensive river bet, but likely to call a rr if he has to