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02-21-2011 , 02:14 PM

ndahlhoff10

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Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100.00/t200.00 Blinds - 5 players
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CO: t3820.00 19.10 BBs
BTN: t1040.00 5.20 BBs
SB: t2445.00 12.22 BBs
Hero (BB): t2760.00 13.80 BBs
UTG: t3435.00 17.18 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with T

UTG raises to t800, Hero

utg is 42/8 after 198hands. 7-11% from ep-mp. How wide?

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02-21-2011 , 03:17 PM

lesson

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i think its close between TT+AK and JJ+

probably lean towards TT+ AK here because hes obviously a fish and could easily show up with the 11% (or more) not the 7%

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02-21-2011 , 04:11 PM

thegenk

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Ship it unless the 4x is unusual - and then I probably tank for a few seconds and ship anyway. A 42/8 is capable of all kinds of shenanigans at any stakes, I imagine.

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02-21-2011 , 06:19 PM

TruFloridaGator

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A 4x here is usually skewed towards the weaker part of his range, a lot of lower pairs which he doesn't want a flop with and other overs we have enough equity against with the dead money. TT+,AK+.

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02-21-2011 , 06:40 PM

1ns71nct

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That's a standard ship it.

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02-21-2011 , 08:05 PM

Ronny Mahoni

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Originally Posted by TruFloridaGator

A 4x here is usually skewed towards the weaker part of his range, a lot of lower pairs which he doesn't want a flop with and other overs we have enough equity against with the dead money. TT+,AK+.

If this is true (which I 100% agree with), where is the difference between TT and 99 (or even 88)?

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02-21-2011 , 08:12 PM

lesson

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if u think a guy playing 8% PFR 4x from first position 5 handed is raising 22-77 then your range is definitely wider than TT+ AK. I dont think this villain raises those hands.

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02-21-2011 , 09:07 PM

The Venetian

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Originally Posted by TruFloridaGator

A 4x here is usually skewed towards the weaker part of his range, a lot of lower pairs which he doesn't want a flop with and other overs we have enough equity against with the dead money. TT+,AK+.

I don't think 42/8's think about hands like this. Don't necessarily think you can discount the high pocket pairs. Also don't see a lot of 42/8's bet 4x/fold, so you may be overestimating fold equity.

I'll just throw this out there. You're in good shape five-handed in a $60 with at least one bad player still alive with a lot of chips. I wouldn't be looking for coin flips and I think that's what you'll get here at best (breakeven is him bet-calling 13% if no fold equity, maybe 11 or 12% with minimal fold equity).

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02-22-2011 , 02:39 AM

jjyykk

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I would need JJ+ here.

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02-22-2011 , 04:21 AM

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OMGClayDol

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i think JJ/AKo seems fine. might stop n go, not a big deal but call and jam any flop (maybe unless you flop da nuts ;/)

against fish, who it seems this guy is, he MIGHT be more likely to fold pre than on the flop as a friend pointed out a while ago when discussing stop n gos but prob not when he 4x here.

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02-22-2011 , 04:31 AM

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Monkey Banana

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The Venetian on fire afaic

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02-22-2011 , 09:21 AM

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Keeg

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I guess JJ+ because FE is low.

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