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07-28-2008 , 09:31 AM

akochman

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1

Poker Stars $6.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 5 players
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UTG: t3920
CO: t2020
Hero (BTN): t2355
SB: t3595
BB: t1610

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 8

UTG calls t150, 1 fold, Hero calls t150, SB calls t75, BB checks

Flop: (t600) 6

(4 players)
SB bets t300, BB calls t300, UTG folds, Hero raises to t2205 all in, SB calls t1905, BB calls t1160 all in

Turn: (t6470) K

(3 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t6470) 5

(3 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:

I know I played the hand horribly but I was just wondering if I should have been able realize that he flopped his straight and what could I have done differently to prevent this outcome?

thanks in advance

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07-28-2008 , 09:42 AM

Alas1time

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Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 112

I don't think a limp is horrible there but i prefer the fold tbh. Anyway i would call on the flop and check/fold turn if some1 bets again.

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07-28-2008 , 10:15 AM

Hood

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Read FAQ: Don't include results, because:

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what could I have done differently to prevent this outcome?

Answer: fold pre-flop, then you won't run in to 57o flopping a straight.

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07-28-2008 , 10:41 AM

Gressklipper

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 62

Agree with above, but IF you where going to play this hand at all, I think it should have been shoving pre.

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07-28-2008 , 11:54 AM

+EV

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,429

I am not a big fan of the limp but this is a hand you need to be looking to find reasons to continue with a this stage. Have a plan and if you don't flop a set, plan to ditch it. The over pair here could be easily dominated by a 99-TT type hand who also didn't feel comfortable raising pf. The coordinated flop is another reason to let it go.

I think that with the bet and call in front of you, shoving is probably worse than just folding.

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07-28-2008 , 02:12 PM

acornsnuts

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 92

I dont like the limp with the utg limping too, id either raise or lay it down, probably lay it down

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07-28-2008 , 03:44 PM

Doublez-Down

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I usually just fold this p/f based on process of elimination. Shoving is a bit thin imo after UTG limped and we still have a semi-comfortable chipstack. Limping is okay I guess as long as you're willing to let it go, but it could be expensive if someone raises behind your limp. Therefore folding p/f is just the easiest play imo and the best way to stay out of this kind of sticky situation. But maybe i'm just a nit.

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07-28-2008 , 05:31 PM

HoldemPokerPlyr

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Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 457

Always be aware of the early limper.

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07-29-2008 , 01:07 PM

JMX

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Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,720

Probably a flop fold for me. A bet and a call before it gets to you is pretty scary, especially since they saw the flop very cheaply or for free. Either of these guys could have 64, 63, 34, 66, 44, 33, 25, or 57. But I wouldn't worry too much about UTG limpers at the 6.5's. More often than not, these are people who want to see flops with small pairs or marginal hands (J9s, QTs, etc.) You should only worry about the UTG limp if you know he's a reg, imo.

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