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10-19-2009 , 09:27 PM

soulsbyc

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 545

CO and BTN are winning regs. Blinds are both very bad, and SB seems very tight at these high blinds.

On SNG wiz the best i can make this is -1%, and thats with reasonably tight ranges.

Is this a spot where you take a gamble with a hand that does ok against calling ranges, to try to preserve fold equity and stay in the game?

Poker Stars $6.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t50 - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: t2644 M = 2.30
BB: t1675 M = 1.46
Hero (UTG): t2219 M = 1.93
CO: t5172 M = 4.50
BTN: t1790 M = 1.56

Pre Flop: (t1150) Hero is UTG with 7

Hero raises to t1800, 4 folds

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10-19-2009 , 09:39 PM

RagzToRiches

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My first thought was no way cos bb's getting 3/1. But most randoms are still tight even with the odds. It's a fold if he's worse than 30%, putting others on reasonable ranges. Surprised how close this was though I'd have thought wiz would have this as an easy fold.

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10-20-2009 , 12:00 AM

micromouse

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 164

i don't mind this at all, play for the win. You have some fold equity and if called most likely 2 live cards

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10-20-2009 , 12:05 AM

ballaHOLLA23

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Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,224

This is one of those really close spots but tbh I think its an ok shove. It's really better than shoving a bad A or what not cause we will often be 60/40 rather than 70/30 against broadway ranges...and we are not bubble yet so i think it makes it more of a shove.

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10-20-2009 , 12:20 AM

jmillerdls

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I'm pushing down to 67s here.

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10-20-2009 , 12:28 AM

movieman2g

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 16,938

the 1800 as opposed to shoving is supposed to rep a stronger hand? kinda like it.

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10-20-2009 , 12:35 AM

TwistedEcho

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I think its a pretty easy shove given stacksetups. We almost totally lose FE if we fold here and we have to call two of the shortstacks shoves w/ ATC in the blind next hand which sucks for us.

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10-20-2009 , 12:54 AM

soulsbyc

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 545

Thanks guys.

The 1800 is just something i've been experimenting with lately. I've been told by good players to do this sort of thing more, and watching the high stakes games the winning regs seem to do this often.

I'm not sure if i like it or not. Surely if i had AA here im just going to shove all in, trying to look as desperate as possible.

Anyone else got thoughts on this?

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10-20-2009 , 10:02 AM

game2eazy

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,403

make sure you just do that bet with all hands not just the bad one because winning regs will notice you opening shove with aa and bet 1800 with 78

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10-20-2009 , 11:00 AM

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OMGBennyLava

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I think this is one of those spots where you can push to maintain FE, but its gonna be super thin either way

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10-20-2009 , 04:37 PM

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Tbini87

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 818

this doesn't seem that good or bad. prob wouldn't think to shove it in game with a bunch of tables running.

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10-20-2009 , 07:21 PM

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soulsbyc

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 545

In regard to the 1800 bet...

Obviosly if youre going to make a habit of this, you need to do it with good and bad hands. But in these games, where you dont play the same people that often, what are winning regs going to think of this?

Readless, does this bet look stong or weak?

I'm struggling to see the advantages of this type of bet. Anyone got any ideas?

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10-20-2009 , 07:38 PM

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catapult

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Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 163

One of the advantages is that because of the amount of tables that some are playing they might only see that you raised and may not have time to see that your raise is for nearly all your stack.

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10-20-2009 , 08:26 PM

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soulsbyc

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 545

Yes, thats very true. I guess that this would be more to your advantage if you were very low early on in the game. A 600 raise off a 650 stack could easily be mistaken for a standard raise. At high blinds youd think people would take the time to look...

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