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01-22-2008 , 02:50 AM

wbmustang

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Poker Stars $6.00 $0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN): t1440
SB: t1745
BB: t1360
UTG: t1450
UTG+1: t1460
UTG+2: t1680
MP1: t1465
MP2: t1435
CO: t1465

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with A

4 folds, MP2 calls t30, 1 fold, Hero raises to t105, 1 fold, BB calls t75, MP2 calls t75

Flop: (t330) 5

(3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets t190, BB folds, MP2 calls t190

Turn: (t710) 4

(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets t450, MP2 raises to t900, Hero calls t450

River: (t2510) 4

(2 players)
MP2 bets t240 all in, Hero calls t240

Well I know that this is a standard hand but I want to know about my bet sizing. Did I bet the right amount on the flop or I should have bet more? Also you can critique how I played other streets thanks.

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01-22-2008 , 02:54 AM

cato988

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real drawish flop and who knows what these guys have at the 6s. Id raise more on the flop, like 225-250. I would probably check the turn and even c/f. AA really doesnt look good anymore

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01-22-2008 , 02:54 AM

sippin_criss

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150 pf, pot the flop, check the turn.

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01-22-2008 , 02:57 AM

cato988

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really 5x pf w/ aces? I know there isn't really a difference between 150 and 120 at the 6s, but 5x just doesn't seem real profitable

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01-22-2008 , 02:57 AM

wbmustang

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Why 5x bb with AA I would understand 4x bb but not five

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01-22-2008 , 03:02 AM

sippin_criss

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Originally Posted by cato988

really 5x pf w/ aces? I know there isn't really a difference between 150 and 120 at the 6s, but 5x just doesn't seem real profitable

just flat out lol. first 2 lvls standard raising is opening 4xbb+1bb for each limper.

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01-22-2008 , 03:05 AM

wbmustang

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Originally Posted by sippin_criss

just flat out lol. first 2 lvls standard raising is opening 4xbb+1bb for each limper.

I thought it usually is 3x + 1bb per limper but I will adjust

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01-22-2008 , 03:09 AM

cato988

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Originally Posted by sippin_criss

just flat out lol. first 2 lvls standard raising is opening 4xbb+1bb for each limper.

lol yea, but you have aces. I guess it doesnt really that much.

OP, 3x+1 is just fine. You don't need to adjust, but if you wanted to, that wouldn't be bad either.

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01-22-2008 , 03:26 AM

sippin_criss

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well, you should adjust. if they call 120, they will probably call 150. more money in the pot when you have bad hands = profit.

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01-22-2008 , 03:48 AM

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MONEYMAN06

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Originally Posted by sippin_criss

well, you should adjust. if they call 120, they will probably call 150. more money in the pot when you have bad hands = profit.

Really since when...LOL! You must have miswrote that i'll give ya a break.

Anyways regarding your betting, I make it 120 pre-flop, pretty similar to you. And on the flop, considering the texture I would bet out 3/4 to 4/5 to deny odds to those people on the straight draw. So if the pot were 375, I would make it about 300to go and see what happens from there.

In your case I don't think you played it bad, but I think you have to bet a little harder on these boards. You also have to weigh in the fact that you got unlucky here too. Which is just unfortunate and inevitable.

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01-22-2008 , 05:22 AM

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frozo

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I would 3x-4x (+1limp) preflop. (120-150)

You should definately bet more on the flop since its so draw heavy for two reasons:
1. To protect your hand of course
2. For Value: I play these limits all day and many villains out there dont know anything about pot odds so they would even call overbets or all-ins in this spot (With straight or flush draws). If they like to draw, make em pay for it. Commit em to the turn. If its a blank get it in.

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01-22-2008 , 07:56 AM

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Rodolphe

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I like the sippin_criss line.
150 PF is fine to protect and give value to your hand (specially in a 6$).
On the flop, you have to bet near the pot since it's very drawy.
I probably check/fold the turn (too weak ?).

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01-22-2008 , 08:16 AM

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Dr_Wonderful

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Originally Posted by Rodolphe

This is roughly how I would play it as well. Bet sizing is more about flow than rules like 3xbb+1bb per limper. If the typical raise has become a bit larger than 3xbbs, go ahead and make it 5bbs. Especially at the 6s, you can really extract a lot more value with AA and KK by making it more preflop.

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01-22-2008 , 02:25 PM

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stea

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PF 120-150 it's ok for me
I bet more on the flop something like 250 on this very drawy board
Turn with this scary card C/F (too weak also like rodolphe? )

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01-22-2008 , 02:47 PM

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wbmustang

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All the help is appreciated I am actually glad I started a thread that sparked some conversation.

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