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04-04-2010 , 03:29 PM

sloove

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Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: t4360 M = 7.27
SB: t4960 M = 8.27
Hero (BB): t3412 M = 5.69
CO: t768 M = 1.28

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is BB with K

2 folds, SB raises to t1600

Hey guys just started SNGs last week, but this should be an easy fold, right?

SB played pretty tight, so I don't have a reason to think he's abusing his stack power.

Do you fold AA here?

And what do you do with AK, AA, KK, QQ when SB knows what he's doing and basically shoves ATC?

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04-04-2010 , 03:31 PM

jurrasstoil

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reads?

as a default i'm not folding QQ here.

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04-04-2010 , 03:54 PM

GOD UR UGLY

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I'm never folding AJ+, 44+.... in fact I'm probably jamming lighter as well. A9+, K9s+,QTs+ and any pair.

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04-04-2010 , 04:27 PM

mavs

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Eazy fold. Yes prob QQ+

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04-04-2010 , 04:46 PM

GOD UR UGLY

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Originally Posted by mavs

Eazy fold. Yes prob QQ+

Prob why I take ur maneys

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04-04-2010 , 04:59 PM

mavs

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wat

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04-04-2010 , 05:08 PM

sloove

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Originally Posted by GOD UR UGLY

Prob why I take ur maneys

or why u like burnining money?

I'm new to SNGs but your mentioned range can never ever be profitable in that spot esp. regarding that SB has been very tight so far.

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04-04-2010 , 05:24 PM

alexd11

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Originally Posted by GOD UR UGLY

in fact I'm probably jamming lighter as well. A9+, K9s+,QTs+ and any pair.

Can't see how this makes any sense. I've played with you a bit Gorillaz man and I think you might be having us on.

Last edited by alexd11; 04-04-2010 at 05:37 PM.

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04-04-2010 , 06:27 PM

zecasaralegu

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Originally Posted by sloove

Do you fold AA here?

YES

on the bubble of a satellite to the wsop main event

About this hand, yes fold. QQ+ seems about right

and theres a guy above leveling or burning money

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04-04-2010 , 07:32 PM

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GOD UR UGLY

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Burning money ldo

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04-04-2010 , 07:37 PM

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Blinky2099

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Originally Posted by GOD UR UGLY

Burning money ldo

you're a bad troll

anyways, it's probably pretty close.. AKs JJ+ maybe?

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04-04-2010 , 09:08 PM

#12

GOD UR UGLY

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I'm sorry but I'm never folding AK here in a 6.50, to anyone ever

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04-04-2010 , 09:16 PM

#13

CTPAX

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Wiz is your friend. Common sense too...

OP, fold's good. Pushing JJ+.

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04-05-2010 , 12:03 AM

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CaS-Dota

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fold unless you hate him lol

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04-05-2010 , 03:07 AM

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ReallyBroke

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Wiz wants top 2.3% (TT+) if he's pushing ATC, and claims AKo is a massive error of -2.31%

2.3% for non-wiz people is a catastrophic mistake. Easy fold, well played by SB unless he knows your are calling wider.

EDIT: Just noticed he didnt shove, so it might be a 3bet shove if you think villain has any decent chance of folding. Wiz likes the 3bet shove if villain folds to your reshove 30% or more.

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04-05-2010 , 04:13 AM

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JAgrazy

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Originally Posted by ReallyBroke

Totally aggree to this! SB can steal with a lot of hands here. Maybe he knows that you can just call/push with some really good hands, although hes showing a little insecurity with his raising instead of shoving.

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04-05-2010 , 07:39 AM

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sloove

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thanks guys, yeah given that shortstacks is so small I figured it cant be that good to call with a non premium pair and well at these level if someone raises to 4x BB I haven't seem him fold anything at all to a 3bet..

and like said, he was petty tight all the way through, even as CL so I give him a tighter range too...

fwiw i folded and he showed AKo...

haven't got WIZ yet but can some1 checkout how tight he's got to be to fold KK there, cause I prob would have folded KK there, just because this guys was so very tight all the time and didn't show any knowledge of bubble/bigstack play

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04-05-2010 , 08:02 AM

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wontholdup

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I think standard play here is to fold all hands bar AA & KK unless this was a sat to another tourny 3 seats etc then maybe justifiy folding the above!

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04-05-2010 , 09:27 AM

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zecasaralegu

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Originally Posted by sloove

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haven't got WIZ yet but can some1 checkout how tight he's got to be to fold KK there, cause I prob would have folded KK there, just because this guys was so very tight all the time and didn't show any knowledge of bubble/bigstack play

No, dont fold KK here in a 6.5

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04-05-2010 , 11:19 AM

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broerstolyko

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I guess my play is full of leaks but shoving here is so standard to me here.
ffs V could be doing this with ATC. I dont like playing for third in one tables. (and yes I admit my finish distribution in HEM shows that.)
Shoving gets the SB in akward spot.

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04-05-2010 , 11:30 AM

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Jay Weezey

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Originally Posted by GOD UR UGLY

I'm sorry but I'm never folding AK here in a 6.50, to anyone ever

wat

AK just isnt cutting it here.

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04-05-2010 , 11:56 AM

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RagzToRiches

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Originally Posted by GOD UR UGLY

I'm never folding AJ+, 44+.... in fact I'm probably jamming lighter as well. A9+, K9s+,QTs+ and any pair.

funniest thing I've seen all day

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