Near and on the final table bubble, villian had raise-folded a lot (mostly minraise/fold) and since the FT started, he got super nitty and I believe this is the first hand he played. Overall stats on him are 23/17/265. I rarely ever play these limit tourneys so I'm not exactly sure how the play is at these kind of final tables.

He snap shoves here utg, do we call?

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40000/t80000 Blinds - 7 players
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Hero (SB): t1796589
BB: t998095
UTG: t644315
UTG+1: t3786194
MP: t5888917
CO: t1171692
BTN: t568698

Pre Flop: (t176000) Hero is SB with 9 A
UTG raises to t636315 all in, 6 folds

by my count you're getting about 1.3-1 on your call. assuming the bb folds always, you need 56% equity against UTGs range to break even.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.138% 50.95% 03.19% 372511407 23320985.00 { Ac9s }
Hand 1: 45.862% 42.67% 03.19% 312000431 23320985.00 { 22+, A2s+, K3s+, Q6s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, A2o+, K8o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }

even with a wide range and ignoring the bb you aren't breaking even sometimes. i think its pretty much a fold unless he's shoving 50% or > of his range

I call if UTG is aggressive and knows how to push. We're ahead of a pushbotting range here.

how can we possibly need >50% equity?

i'd dump this, people play tighter at the final table just like you said.. because every step up the ladder is an awesome increase in money.

against his range i think you'll be a coinflip at best and a dog too many times... if you're ahead it won't likely be by much (the few times he shows up with KQs)

I agree with drew that this is a fold, but he's assigning way too loose of a range for this player even though he's under 10 bb's. He may be getting short, but there's one guy shorter and he's not completely desperate yet.

dump it..

how did you end up? (i was frustr@ted)

thanks for shoving my bb 100% of the time.. i almost called you with k2 one time..god you made my tournament miserable

nj tho

ahem. not sure why i was trying to do math yesterday... but i meant 44% equity. for folding to be correct he'd have to be at least as tight as this:


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.376% 42.43% 01.95% 145304231 6666349.50 { Ac9s }
Hand 1: 55.624% 53.68% 01.95% 183823870 6666349.50 { 66+, A5s+, K9s+, Q9s+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+ }


so now i say poosh allday

It's a call.


You win every race anyways so what the hell right. sduio;fah;oghio;asdhgasdfghasdh

he's not pushing anything here under A8s, KTs and i'm tempted to say KJs, QJs, ATo, KJo, and QJo and 55+

you're assigning too loose of a range here unless we've got a read.

Doesn't ICM make this a clear fold?

Maybe I have it backwards...

That's not really even taking into accn't ranges and all that good stuff... F I hate maffs

I got 5th after this somewhat nasty beat

yankitoz: posts small blind 50000
AS501Boy: posts big blind 100000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wandigo [Ad Qc]
blnholley50: folds
wandigo: raises 145556 to 245556
xfx-: folds
yankitoz: folds
AS501Boy: calls 145556
*** FLOP *** [Qs 7h 8c]
AS501Boy: checks
wandigo: bets 330125
AS501Boy: raises 2169875 to 2500000
wandigo: calls 1855064 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (314811) returned to AS501Boy
*** TURN *** [Qs 7h 8c] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 7h 8c 9s] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AS501Boy: shows [9d 8h] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
wandigo: shows [Ad Qc] (a pair of Queens)
AS501Boy collected 4961490 from pot

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but w/e it was so easy to get this guy to c/r huge just by certain timing and sizes in my bets so I got exactly what I wanted just a bit ul.

gg tho man, you played well & hope to see you deep again sometime soon. gl