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 12k - Help with Hand Range (again)  12k - Help with Hand Range (again)

05-31-2016 , 11:50 PM
$55 Bovada 12k gtd. 9 handed. 10k starting. I don't remember having any great reads at the time on anyone.

Blinds 75/150

UTG (11853) makes it 300.
UTG+1 folds
MP1 Hero (8475) makes it 800 with AK
MP2 folds
HJ folds
CO (10150) calls 800.
BTN folds
SB folds
BB (9490) goes all-in for 9490.

Is BB range here just QQ+/AK? We're about 41.9% against this range with AKs. We're getting 7675:10600 to call, so exactly 42%. I'm not inclined to gamble off getting exact odds in a spot like this, but if we expand the BB jam range at all then we're probably too good a price to call.

Anyone have a different BB range here?
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06-01-2016 , 04:42 AM
I would be happy to let this one go if you don't have enough stats or any good reads on BB. Unless you want to flip - you wont be ahead most of the time but only marginally. I think the BB range could be TT - AA and AKs, maybe he has the same hand as you.

BB might sense weakness from a min raise UTG, a smallish 3-bet and a flat call from CO - he could be shoving wider but looks strong from our point of view. I think either a call or fold is good not sure what others believe
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06-01-2016 , 03:46 PM
EZ fold. Some villains may include JJ, and others may only do this with KK+. Highly doubt you ever see AQs. I think its a mistake to always range a jam here JJ+ AK.

QQ+, AK seems fine and I agree with your "edge fasting" approach.
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06-02-2016 , 05:36 AM
His Range is excluding some KK+ combos due to overjamming. Its often JJ,QQ,AK. +EV call. Might still be a fold if your edge is big over the field.
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06-02-2016 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by furo
His Range is excluding some KK+ combos due to overjamming. Its often JJ,QQ,AK. +EV call. Might still be a fold if your edge is big over the field.
Incorrect to exclude the KK+ combos. Very common play to appear capped against our tight lil range here.
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06-02-2016 , 01:23 PM
I think it's hard to exclude KK+ here as well. Some opponents will jam KK/AA here knowing anything else looks too strong, and some won't because they don't think that way - that's a difficult read to make.

fwiw I did fold because I think QQ+,AK is basically the range, and we're pretty straight up even odds against that.
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06-03-2016 , 06:53 AM
To me the question basically is whether any AQ is in his range. You're technically behind any reasonable pair and far behind KK and AA. If you don't want to flip for your tournament life, easy fold.
I'm ranging villain at JJ+ AK (sometimes tighter) and I do not exclude KK+ at all, given the overall strength displayed in the hand so far and the number of players involved already. If I have AA in the BB I would consider jamming as being the best option.
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