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05-01-2008 , 12:22 PM

tercet

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Is this fold ok?

4 Seats payed to million

Poker Stars 5400FPP No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 5 players
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BTN: t3468
SB: t4170
Hero (BB): t2780
UTG: t3480
CO: t1102

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 4

1 fold, CO raises to t1102 all in, 3 folds

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05-01-2008 , 12:38 PM

GtrHtr

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yep

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05-01-2008 , 01:11 PM

Doublez-Down

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Hmmm, are there antes?

1.5:1 is a purty good price here imo, and any PP is definitely ahead of a large portion of his range. Couple that with the chance to knock out a player, and that you won't go broke if you lose, and that you'll have CL if you win, giving you a much better chance at first if you win and I lean toward calling here. Looks a little like you are playing just to finish ITM imo. I'm at work though so no SNG Wiz.

Am I crazy? Second thought maybe it's okay considering payout is all 4 seats....NM.

Question for others so I know I'm thinking okay....

Calling would be right if this were standard payout SNG?

Last edited by Doublez-Down; 05-01-2008 at 01:15 PM. Reason: see second thought.

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05-01-2008 , 02:02 PM

GtrHtr

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Looks a little like you are playing just to finish ITM imo.

yes he is, deliberately.

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05-01-2008 , 02:04 PM

Doublez-Down

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Originally Posted by GtrHtr

yes he is, deliberately.

Right, that's why I added the last part. Didn't see the payout until after typing all the rest. What about if this was a standard payout SNG?

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05-01-2008 , 02:38 PM

GtrHtr

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ah yes you did. sorry about that.

in a standard sng I have no idea, haven't played one in almost 2 yrs sorry.

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05-01-2008 , 03:24 PM

The Venetian

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05-01-2008 , 03:50 PM

Velocity

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Standard fold with that payout structure. Nice hand.

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05-01-2008 , 03:57 PM

tercet

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Venetian what in the hell does that graph mean lol

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05-01-2008 , 04:27 PM

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LordRush

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the graph means we are supposed to call if we know he is pushing more than ~23% of his range for +$EV. its the same graph used in sngegt right?

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05-01-2008 , 04:30 PM

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Into2ndWind

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this is a snap fold, let another big stack take him out, if u lose u are the short stack, if im understanding this right

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05-01-2008 , 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LordRush

the graph means we are supposed to call if we know he is pushing more than ~23% of his range for +$EV. its the same graph used in sngegt right?

Yes, this is right.

It's from SNG Wiz and I have a custom format set up for the 5400's. At its core, this is pretty much an ICM question, so that's all there is to it. I guess some people might tinker w/ min. edge since the 5400's have a pretty f'ed up payout structure and the bubble makes for some very counterintuitive decisions, but basically, if you think he's pushing more than 23% or better, it's a call. If not, fold.

One thing to consider is that the shortstack is on the brink of losing his fold equity, which might widen his range a bit, but he still should be pretty tight this far off the button. So, yeah, like everyone else said, fold.

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