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12-22-2014 , 09:52 PM
how he knew that ace will hit the flop? is this one of this bots integrated with system?

888 Poker - $1.80+$0.20|12500/25000 Ante 3125 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 7.55 BB (VPIP: 13.83, PFR: 6.45, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 94)
CO: 8.78 BB (VPIP: 20.98, PFR: 12.61, 3Bet Preflop: 6.56, Hands: 1,994)
BTN: 22.19 BB (VPIP: 42.31, PFR: 11.38, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 130)
Hero (SB): 11.1 BB
BB: 12.5 BB (VPIP: 17.69, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 148)
UTG: 20.74 BB (VPIP: 20.12, PFR: 12.20, 3Bet Preflop: 2.00, Hands: 166)
UTG+1: 32.82 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP: 27.12 BB (VPIP: 36.32, PFR: 17.37, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 225)

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 5 3

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (5 BB, 4 players) 9 7 3
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, BTN checks

Turn: (5 BB, 4 players) 7
Hero bets 2 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2 BB

River: (9 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN bets 4.5 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB

BTN shows A 2 (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens) (Pre 55%, Flop 14%, Turn 14%)
Hero mucks 5 3 (Two Pair, Sevens and Threes) (Pre 45%, Flop 86%, Turn 86%)
BTN wins 18 BB
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12-23-2014 , 02:20 AM
Your post flop action was inappropriate for your stack depth. I would fold pre but if you really wanna play gotta pay by shoving all in pre.
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12-23-2014 , 06:09 AM
Yeah get it in pre or fold..

Once I flop a pair, I would probably just go with it and jam on the flop.

On the turn he probably thinks A high can be good alot of the time since a 7 would probably bet to protect OTF. It looks like you are using his flop passiveness and a brick turn to bluff. I'd probably peel one too if I were him.
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12-23-2014 , 10:04 AM
It was 4 way flop how could he think that ace high is good.? This is unreal
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12-23-2014 , 12:08 PM
he called in a four way pot on the turn how could you think your 3 was good on the river? that's unreal.
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12-23-2014 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CrunkMonkey
he called in a four way pot on the turn how could you think your 3 was good on the river? that's unreal.
:thumbup:
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12-23-2014 , 07:51 PM
Fold pre with your stack.

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Originally Posted by ClownHead
It was 4 way flop how could he think that ace high is good.? This is unreal
draws & less likely you have a 7.
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12-23-2014 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ClownHead
how he knew that ace will hit the flop? is this one of this bots integrated with system?
This kind of thinking isn't helpful to anyone, least of all yourself.

If you want to imagine that the world of online poker is out specifically to get you then you can take yourself off to the zoo and join the rest of the tinfoil hat brigade in their rigtard thread here, and blame everyone but yourself for why you don't win.

OTOH, if you want to improve then start thinking about what improvements you can make to your game, not what improvements you think your opponents should be making to theirs.
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12-23-2014 , 08:46 PM
You completely butchered your own hand, so don't blame your opponent for what you lost here. And anyway, if you think your opponent made a mistake, surely that's what you want, to play against people who make errors? No?


How this hand played out is exactly why you shouldn't complete from SB here. It's just burning money in the long run. Your direct pot odds of 9-1 are totally meaningless, because

- you have a hand that won't flop the best hand very often
- when it does flop the best hand you usually won't know it's the best hand
- you're out of position against three other people

And that's even if you get to see a flop — remember that BB could still decide raise pre, and then you have spunked away a few more precious chips for nothing.

And your short stack means it's not even close to offering implied odds to make it worthwhile via the possibility of value on later hands.

You only have 10bb, and your preflop decisions at this stage should be either shove or fold. Not just with 53s in SB here, but basically with any hand from any position.

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Originally Posted by ClownHead
It was 4 way flop how could he think that ace high is good.? This is unreal
Not as unreal as thinking your fifth pair OTR is good for more than half your already pitiful remaining stack. Seriously, stop worrying about how villain should play better and think about your own mistakes.
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12-24-2014 , 03:49 AM
lol at this thread... Ok board pairs ott without anyone raising the flop. You're bet wasn't even 1/2 the pot it was 2 into 5 bb and he was last to act closing the action. There's a few reasons he could be calling with here. #1 ace high on paired board with tame action has potential to be good. #2 calling ip if you x otr he can still bet to get you off a marginal holding. It's not really a bad beat you only had a pair of 3s, if you were intending to call if he bets why not just fire a small blocking bet?
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12-24-2014 , 05:43 AM
I suppose villain probably shouldn't be calling the turn.

I wouldn't bet the turn though either first to act with a weak pair.

If you really must play the hand, you're looking for two pair, a set, a straight flush draw, or something at least better than bottom pair with a weak kicker in a 4-way pot.

I actually think limping is better than jamming and I think limping is acceptable sometimes in SB even at 10 bb. However, I don't think I would limp this particular hand.

Last edited by juggle5344; 12-24-2014 at 05:54 AM.
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