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04-05-2014 , 02:28 AM

LickitySplit

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This was from a Bovada BPO $109 50k the other week, no HH but have some of the ruff details..

Final Table, 4 handed, 1st is about 14k, 4th is about 5k. Hero has been fairly agro, just got 3 outted by Villain (AK < AJ) about 4 hands ago for half my stack. V has been super spewy, opening wide calling off some bigger reshoves with QJo etc. BTN has been loose passive, flatting a lot pre folding post pretty easily.

UTG V: 40bb opens 2x
BTN: 35bb flats
SB: 14bb folds (super nitty whole FT)
BB Hero: 18bb with 99....

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04-05-2014 , 03:49 AM

isuxatpokerbad

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this is a jam. there's nothing else worth discussing. this isn't threadworthy at all, just seems more like a brag then anything else that you got to the final four of a mtt and you got sucked out upon. BBV is that way.

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04-05-2014 , 12:36 PM

GutPunch

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ez pz shove. How many BB's do you need to NOT shove would be a better question

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04-05-2014 , 12:57 PM

wesdaco

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Originally Posted by isuxatpokerbad

If villain is calling everything like QJo/is very spewy like OP said then is it still a push with ICM considerations? would it be better to find a spot where either the villain has folded already or I have A7-AJ, KQ-K10? because if you take away his fold equity then its just a coin toss

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04-05-2014 , 01:16 PM

shichibukai

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Originally Posted by wesdaco

wut ?

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04-05-2014 , 01:33 PM

wesdaco

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Originally Posted by shichibukai

wut ?

The point of the push is to gain fold equity right? if no chance at fold equity then you're pretty much playing who got dealt the better cards. wouldn't it be better to see a flop?

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04-05-2014 , 01:41 PM

shichibukai

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Originally Posted by wesdaco

The point of the push is to gain fold equity right? if no chance at fold equity then you're pretty much playing who got dealt the better cards. wouldn't it be better to see a flop?

the push is for value

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04-05-2014 , 09:49 PM

dwiele

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ez ship, sorry you lost

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04-05-2014 , 11:15 PM

AimHigher

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Originally Posted by wesdaco

The point of the push is to gain fold equity right? if no chance at fold equity then you're pretty much playing who got dealt the better cards. wouldn't it be better to see a flop?

If he calls more often we have more equity when called and he'll still fold sometimes. This is definitely a shove. Play with an ICM calculator and pokerstove, you'll see its hugely profitable.

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04-06-2014 , 01:36 AM

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Dragons_Egg

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happily jamming

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04-06-2014 , 08:03 PM

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Weatherman

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Originally Posted by isuxatpokerbad

+1.

(Snap shove, ftr)

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04-07-2014 , 09:10 AM

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oldsilver

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17BB/f pre

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04-07-2014 , 09:25 AM

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lissistinkt

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the shove is for foldequity though since u dont want to get called given icm (in before some ****** says this isnt true)

nevertheless it is a superez shove and if u are so bad at poker that u questioning this spot u will have missplayed so many hands in this mtt that u made a terrible choice of which hand to post

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04-07-2014 , 10:27 AM

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Shwauby

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jamming is the standard play. folding is very bad. flatting isn't the worst.

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04-08-2014 , 01:23 AM

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LickitySplit

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This isnt a bbv brag lol. Its obviously a super standard push in this spot, but just wanted to see if anyone would ever consider here. As in maybe folding, and waiting to reshove against the btn villian who can open fold alot easier.

Anyways thanks for the input. I shoved and was snap called by A8o obv lost.

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04-08-2014 , 01:46 AM

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cicakman

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Originally Posted by LickitySplit

This isnt a bbv brag lol. Its obviously a super standard push in this spot, but just wanted to see if anyone would ever consider here. As in maybe folding, and waiting to reshove against the btn villian who can open fold alot easier.

Anyways thanks for the input. I shoved and was snap called by A8o obv lost.

this (first bold) because this (second bold) which is choosing less value

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04-08-2014 , 01:46 AM

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isuxatpokerbad

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Originally Posted by LickitySplit

this is a thread that u wouldnt post had you won the hand. therefore, bbv.

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