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09-28-2017 , 01:59 PM
PokerStars - 700/1400 Ante 175 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 34.8 BB (VPIP: 23.38, PFR: 16.79, 3Bet Preflop: 6.91, Hands: 945)
Hero (BTN): 50.98 BB
SB: 34.06 BB (VPIP: 26.29, PFR: 17.22, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 218)
BB: 15.36 BB (VPIP: 20.36, PFR: 11.06, 3Bet Preflop: 8.25, Hands: 222)
UTG: 18.45 BB (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 5.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
UTG+1: 28.96 BB (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 17.07, 3Bet Preflop: 12.96, Hands: 125)
MP: 90.76 BB (VPIP: 27.54, PFR: 22.39, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 69)

7 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.37 BB) Hero has T T

fold, fold, MP raises to 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (8.37 BB, 3 players) 6 2 9
MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets 3.35 BB, fold, CO calls 3.35 BB

Turn: (15.07 BB, 2 players) J
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (15.07 BB, 2 players) 4
CO bets 11.9 BB

HERO?


We're in late stage, some minutes after the bubble.

OR is sorta decent LAG, CO is a strong winning reg. I usually mix flat and squeeze in these cases, but this time I prefered to flat because of my ultraaggressive image (didn't want to be 4bet and muck a strong hand as TT).

Is the size OTF right? What do we do river? Thanks!
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09-28-2017 , 02:39 PM
3b pre every time. Can gii vs 4b if you're concerned they're exploiting our aggro.

Turn I lean towards betting for value/protection and would rather give up on the river. Most of our value range will go 3 streets and likewise our bluff range so think we should be betting most everything ott. River is weird bet from villain and prob mostly AJ 44 but I can't think of many or any better hands we get to river with and feels gross to fold this so I'd sigh call.

edit: think turn and river pretty interesting spots altogether. Suppose we can check bunch of range ott and bomb river too.

Last edited by tboneparte; 09-28-2017 at 02:53 PM.
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09-28-2017 , 03:08 PM
It was a very weird river lead, I tanked a lot. I'd put in his range also 99, I guess it would be a pretty straightforward play. OTT, yep, I guess betting is a solution, since the flat calling range of CO is not extremely tight, so we want to protect our equity.
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09-29-2017 , 07:32 AM
Really interesting spot tbh, don't know what's the correct play here (most likely bet turn again for obv reasons)
Givin stats and your image agree w/ @tboneparte, that we should 3/bet to 5bet jamm TT here.
Man, our range looks something like 55,77,88 or a stab otf with some backdoors, but with what does V could potentially bluff here?
He can def take this line w/ sets and J9s (makes sense to me )


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09-29-2017 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by steinerbest
It was a very weird river lead, I tanked a lot. I'd put in his range also 99, I guess it would be a pretty straightforward play. OTT, yep, I guess betting is a solution, since the flat calling range of CO is not extremely tight, so we want to protect our equity.
What exactly looks weird?
You're fos by the river, he hasJx+ in his range and bluffs.

3bet pre
Flop larger 3way w/ this hand in particular.
Not a spot where you can bet large portion of your range small.
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09-29-2017 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by OutPlayU27
Really interesting spot tbh, don't know what's the correct play here (most likely bet turn again for obv reasons)
Givin stats and your image agree w/ @tboneparte, that we should 3/bet to 5bet jamm TT here.
Man, our range looks something like 55,77,88 or a stab otf with some backdoors, but with what does V could potentially bluff here?
He can def take this line w/ sets and J9s (makes sense to me )


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That's what I thought, in the end... So I folded.
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09-29-2017 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by user12345
What exactly looks weird?
You're fos by the river, he hasJx+ in his range and bluffs.

3bet pre
Flop larger 3way w/ this hand in particular.
Not a spot where you can bet large portion of your range small.
Thanks Man.

About the Jx+... I think its value range is more narrow than this... Thinking of him valuebetting, dunno, QJ, KJ or even AJ is too thin for that size, IMHO.
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09-29-2017 , 11:11 AM
How is it too thin when you have very few Jx+ in your range by the river?
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09-29-2017 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by user12345
How is it too thin when you have very few Jx+ in your range by the river?
Putting myself in his shoes, If I had QJ,KJ or AJ, and wanted to valuebet against a weak V's range, I'd prolly do less. It's more a size issue, I guess. But it's my point of view, I'm open to every different idea.
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09-29-2017 , 11:39 AM
QJ and KJ pretty unlikely to c/c flop tho. River range is thin both ways. AJ 99 44 most likely for value, although A9s not too unreasonable since we hardly have Jx and shouldn't be expected to have TT. For bluffs I'd mostly expect to see some ATs and 55/77, 33 if he calls that pre.
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09-29-2017 , 01:58 PM
i tend to call in these spots vs regulars bcs it can give me some valuable informations about how are they playing range otf that i can exploit later on,altough it might be -ev at exact moment. i wouldnt discount KK+ here also otr.

value range is 99 44 2 combos of AJs few combos of KK+ and what bluffs exactly ? i dont see many. also agree on bet turn for protection/value, it's cool card anyway for ours range since we'll bet most of our JXss with bds otf
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