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 Tourney. JJ on double-paired board.  Tourney. JJ on double-paired board.

10-20-2013 , 01:45 AM
Hey

Second hand. I also opened the first hand and won the blinds.

I 3-bet pre because i didn't believe that the tiny raise was anything more than a weak attempt to take the initiative in the hand (and JJ isn't the best hand to play multiway OOP).

Check or shove river?

thanks

    Full Tilt, 40/80 blinds No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BTN: 5,461 (68.3 bb)
    SB: 2,920 (36.5 bb)
    Hero (BB): 3,120 (39 bb)
    UTG+2: 6,895 (86.2 bb)
    MP1: 3,000 (37.5 bb)
    MP2: 3,000 (37.5 bb)
    MP3: 2,110 (26.4 bb)
    CO: 7,130 (89.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
    UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls 80, 2 folds, CO raises to 160, BTN folds, SB calls 120, Hero raises to 545, MP1 folds, CO calls 385, SB calls 385

    Flop: (1,715) 4 Q 4 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

    Turn: (1,715) Q (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets 760, CO folds, SB calls 760

    River: (3,235) 5 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero ???

     Tourney. JJ on double-paired board. Quote
    10-20-2013 , 02:47 AM
    b/f 1k? sucks a bit to fold after betting but he´s prob never c/s worse
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    10-20-2013 , 03:48 AM
    bet like 1/3 pot/fold river but i don't why you checked flop. pre is fine imo
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    10-20-2013 , 04:02 AM
    I like to bet/fold as most here suggest. But to answer your question i check behind rather than shove.
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    10-20-2013 , 04:07 AM
    yes i also think that choosing between check or shove i also prefer check but i don't understand why you consider only these two options and don't consider bet like 1/3 pot and fold if he shoves. I really think he can call small bet with worse so we get value and he veeery unlikely shove with something worse
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    10-20-2013 , 04:50 AM
    Is your plan otf to c/c or c/f? I think b/f might be better as we keep the betting lead and don't miss value from the f draw and worse pairs looking to peel one. No one nessesarily has to have a Q here and if they do proly lose less by b/f then c/c.

    guys sb has 1700 by the time we get to river, we can't b/f, I proly just x behind, dont see how we getting value from worse.
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    10-20-2013 , 06:14 AM
    pre is a little too small, flop is meh, turn is def too small. jam now for value. hes not folding 99.
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