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03-05-2017 , 09:36 PM
What is the best way to play this hand. I don't like 3 betting a lot because of two massive active stacks beside me and figure they will mostly flat here. I'm below chip average and don't mind getting it in on a flip. Fairly confident neither villain has a bigger pocket pair here. Is it better to flat or jam?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 400 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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UTG+1: 106,400 (26.6 bb)
UTG+2: 150,986 (37.7 bb)
MP1: 96,198 (24 bb)
MP2: 412,904 (103.2 bb)
MP3: 419,021 (104.8 bb)
Hero (CO): 142,023 (35.5 bb)
BTN: 468,840 (117.2 bb)
SB: 230,260 (57.6 bb)
BB: 148,847 (37.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 8
3 folds, MP2 raises to 8,000, MP3 calls 8,000, [color="red"]Hero ?
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03-06-2017 , 01:59 AM
Flat and setmine is best imo.
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03-06-2017 , 03:19 AM
I would flat and play the big stack in position. We don't need to get it in with mp here and if someone 4 bet/shoves behind you then you're pretty much forced to fold.
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03-06-2017 , 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SomeInternetKid
Flat and setmine is best imo.
Ditto. If it's a turbo, I might consider shoving. Good questions are based upon stats here: Is Villain 1 opening too wide, and is Villain 2 flatting 2b too often? Can we earn more BB by setmining vs their ranges or do we bank more by shoving here? In other words, exploitative play based upon villains' stats might be better than a blanket approach.
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03-06-2017 , 03:47 AM
shove preflop
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03-06-2017 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffmray
shove preflop
Why?
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03-06-2017 , 05:57 AM
Villian 1 was opening a ton. Villian 2 was also playing a lot of hand yeah. Thanks for the responses
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03-06-2017 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
Villian 1 was opening a ton. Villian 2 was also playing a lot of hand yeah. Thanks for the responses
Why not put this in the op?

If that's your read then I would jam. If they really both are getting out of line then a jam of mid 30 blinds seems fine. You don't want to play multiway when most flops bring an overcard and we all know how that is 3(+ways). If they're loose then we don't wanna set mine cause they aren't making strong hands as often but we can just rip it.
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03-08-2017 , 07:27 PM
Flat, C flop, shouldn't be part of your shove range pre with 35bb.
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03-08-2017 , 07:56 PM
3Bet shoving with 35BB with 3 players to act is really bad IMO.

I think calling to set mine is fine - we're deep enough and might get further customers from the blinds.

I don't mind 3Betting to 20000 if you want and fold to a 4Bet shove.
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