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02-04-2012 , 10:24 AM

Big Bet 1992

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 36

Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11786762

MP1: 3,370 (168.5 bb)
MP2: 2,770 (138.5 bb)
Hero (MP3): 3,050 (152.5 bb)
CO: 2,970 (148.5 bb)
BTN: 2,920 (146 bb)
SB: 2,840 (142 bb)
BB: 3,000 (150 bb)
UTG+1: 3,140 (157 bb)
UTG+2: 2,940 (147 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K

UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 60, MP1 calls 60, MP2 calls 60, Hero raises to 360, 4 folds, UTG+2 calls 300, MP1 calls 300, MP2 calls 300

Flop: (1,470) J

(4 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets 1,400, 3 folds

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was this a correct fold?

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02-04-2012 , 10:32 AM

EduardSB

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 287

any reads on villain like, is he a maniac that shoves his stack into anyone with atc? seems like an easy fold 150bb deep. Unsure about villains range here but you obv. have an edge against him because he's pot betting with a very polarized range here. ( aka Jx or nothing.)

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02-04-2012 , 10:38 AM

Big Bet 1992

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 36

was only 3 or 4 hands into the tourney so no reads, tho i think if i had a read that he was a maniac shoving any two it would still be hard to call/shove with two to act behind me that could be slow playing jx

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02-04-2012 , 11:00 AM

EduardSB

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 287

Hmm, I like a fold here. Actually, by calling your getting value town'd most of the time and shoving is turning your hand into a bluff. fold and get a better spot. don't risk your tournament live on this one

put a note on villain that he pot betted multi way with JJx flop. If you see him do something strange later on, stack off light.

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02-07-2012 , 06:02 PM

badabamboozle

adept

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 767

I like a fold.
4-way etc.

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02-07-2012 , 08:55 PM

SkinnyStax

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,604

WTF

ffs FLAT his bet. JX is like always cking here and def not betting close to pot.

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02-08-2012 , 09:16 AM

gilmore38

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,187

Raise more pre, you only make it less than 2x pot when it gets to you and that is too small imo. I would go to 475 - 500 here, you do not want to play KK against multiple opponents and you still have people to act after you.

You are happy to get into a raising war pre, so bet more.

As played, I don't like the fold either. If villain has Jx or 88 then he is much more likley to check than bet.

I would shove in your position although can see the merits of a flat as long as you are now committed to it.

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02-08-2012 , 09:31 AM

TeamTrousers

talks the talk

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,894

ugh, don't like the fold at all, just get it in here. Really unlikely he pots it with Jx, and I'm often expecting him to show up with a pocket pair or A8 here.

Also, more pre, at least 500 imo, and possibly even just shove, cos three people have already put in 3bb and people are so dumb in $5 donkaments and will call super light for another ~150bb

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02-08-2012 , 09:32 AM

hu9881

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 30

more pre

hes got alot of 8x, T9s and pairs here btw, betting pot is nearly never a jack here

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