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02-04-2012 , 10:24 AM
    Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11786762

    MP1: 3,370 (168.5 bb)
    MP2: 2,770 (138.5 bb)
    Hero (MP3): 3,050 (152.5 bb)
    CO: 2,970 (148.5 bb)
    BTN: 2,920 (146 bb)
    SB: 2,840 (142 bb)
    BB: 3,000 (150 bb)
    UTG+1: 3,140 (157 bb)
    UTG+2: 2,940 (147 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K K
    UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 60, MP1 calls 60, MP2 calls 60, Hero raises to 360, 4 folds, UTG+2 calls 300, MP1 calls 300, MP2 calls 300

    Flop: (1,470) J 8 J (4 players)
    UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets 1,400, 3 folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 1,470 pot
    Final Board: J 8 J
    MP1 mucked and lost (-360 net)
    MP2 mucked and won 1,470 (1,110 net)
    Hero mucked K K and lost (-360 net)
    UTG+2 mucked and lost (-360 net)



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    was this a correct fold?
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    02-04-2012 , 10:32 AM
    any reads on villain like, is he a maniac that shoves his stack into anyone with atc? seems like an easy fold 150bb deep. Unsure about villains range here but you obv. have an edge against him because he's pot betting with a very polarized range here. ( aka Jx or nothing.)
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    02-04-2012 , 10:38 AM
    was only 3 or 4 hands into the tourney so no reads, tho i think if i had a read that he was a maniac shoving any two it would still be hard to call/shove with two to act behind me that could be slow playing jx
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    02-04-2012 , 11:00 AM
    Hmm, I like a fold here. Actually, by calling your getting value town'd most of the time and shoving is turning your hand into a bluff. fold and get a better spot. don't risk your tournament live on this one put a note on villain that he pot betted multi way with JJx flop. If you see him do something strange later on, stack off light.
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    02-07-2012 , 06:02 PM
    I like a fold.
    4-way etc.
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    02-07-2012 , 08:55 PM
    WTF


    ffs FLAT his bet. JX is like always cking here and def not betting close to pot.
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    02-08-2012 , 09:16 AM
    Raise more pre, you only make it less than 2x pot when it gets to you and that is too small imo. I would go to 475 - 500 here, you do not want to play KK against multiple opponents and you still have people to act after you.

    You are happy to get into a raising war pre, so bet more.

    As played, I don't like the fold either. If villain has Jx or 88 then he is much more likley to check than bet.

    I would shove in your position although can see the merits of a flat as long as you are now committed to it.
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    02-08-2012 , 09:31 AM
    ugh, don't like the fold at all, just get it in here. Really unlikely he pots it with Jx, and I'm often expecting him to show up with a pocket pair or A8 here.

    Also, more pre, at least 500 imo, and possibly even just shove, cos three people have already put in 3bb and people are so dumb in $5 donkaments and will call super light for another ~150bb
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    02-08-2012 , 09:32 AM
    more pre

    hes got alot of 8x, T9s and pairs here btw, betting pot is nearly never a jack here
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