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08-11-2010 , 02:18 PM
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Full Tilt Poker $5 + $0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 9 players
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UTG: t1425 35.62 BBs
Hero (UTG+1): t1455 36.38 BBs
UTG+2: t1080 27 BBs
MP1: t1515 37.88 BBs
MP2: t1740 43.50 BBs
CO: t1920 48 BBs
BTN: t850 21.25 BBs
SB: t1830 45.75 BBs
BB: t1685 42.12 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is UTG+1 with K K
1 fold, Hero raises to t100, 3 folds, CO calls t100, 2 folds, BB calls t60

Flop: (t320) 3 A T (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets t40, BB folds, Hero calls t40

Turn: (t400) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t160, Hero calls t160

River: (t720) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t280, Hero folds

no reads on villian
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08-11-2010 , 02:28 PM
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Raise bigger PF
cbet flop

It's too early to be betting 2.5 PF. 3x. You can't let that ace scare you away from a cbet on the flop. You showed weakness and he exploited it. If he comes along after that, you can assume he has the ace, but with the pot odds he's giving you, I'm seeing that to the end with kings.
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08-11-2010 , 02:43 PM
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a c-bet turns this into a bluff tho
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08-11-2010 , 03:15 PM
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ya i c-bet heads up but don't like it vs 2 people that much.
turn I hate calling turn but too many straight/ flush draws he could have just gotta call it.
river.... ehhh i'm ok with the fold there

wp I play this the same.
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08-11-2010 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by litlebullet
ya i c-bet heads up but don't like it vs 2 people that much.
turn I hate calling turn but too many straight/ flush draws he could have just gotta call it.
river.... ehhh i'm ok with the fold there

wp I play this the same.
Once BB checks, he's essentially c-betting one player most of the time anyway. IMO c-betting will still save u chips in the hand, and gives u more that one way to win the pot. U cud c-bet like 140-150, and still save that 50 or 60 chips. And your pf raise does let some weak holdings call u from the blinds. 3-4 x it at these levels imo.

As played, I shut it down on the turn. I wud put him on a weak A here the way he is betting.
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08-11-2010 , 07:26 PM
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Once BB checks, he's essentially c-betting one player most of the time anyway. IMO c-betting will still save u chips in the hand, and gives u more that one way to win the pot. U cud c-bet like 140-150, and still save that 50 or 60 chips. And your pf raise does let some weak holdings call u from the blinds. 3-4 x it at these levels imo.

As played, I shut it down on the turn. I wud put him on a weak A here the way he is betting.
I'm not sure you can really discount bb not having an ace by checking first to act.

I semi agree with you I can see check/ folding the turn but by co's bet sizing we can see he's quite bad and it's impossible to discount a lot of hands we beat/ draws.
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08-12-2010 , 04:51 AM
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Raise bigger pre. Flop is obv. fine! Same goes for turn and river.
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08-12-2010 , 07:23 AM
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Raise bigger pre. I don't hate a c-bet but i think c/c is ok... turn is not great but his betsizing isn't either. river is fine i guess
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08-12-2010 , 07:59 AM
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I just dont get why anyone would c-bet here?
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08-12-2010 , 08:34 AM
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Line is fine. Don't cbet flop, it is pointless here.
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08-12-2010 , 08:46 AM
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There's something to be said for cbetting a fairly wet flop like this, but I'd certainly prefer it if I had position.
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08-12-2010 , 11:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by litlebullet
ya i c-bet heads up but don't like it vs 2 people that much.
turn I hate calling turn but too many straight/ flush draws he could have just gotta call it.
river.... ehhh i'm ok with the fold there

wp I play this the same.
This. Mainly because of this :

Quote:
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by co's bet sizing we can see he's quite bad and it's impossible to discount a lot of hands we beat/ draws.
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