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08-25-2011 , 08:18 AM

LetItBe777

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[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (1,250/2,500 blinds, 300 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10432522

MP2: 46,034 (18.4 bb)
MP3: 61,873 (24.7 bb)
CO: 42,102 (16.8 bb)
BTN: 61,105 (24.4 bb)
SB: 86,380 (34.6 bb)
BB: 45,682 (18.3 bb)
Hero (UTG+1): 76,538 (30.6 bb)
UTG+2: 167,316 (66.9 bb)
MP1: 34,521 (13.8 bb)

Preflop: (2,700) Hero is UTG+1 with 2

Hero raises to 5,157, 3 folds, MP3 calls 5,157, 4 folds

Flop: (16,764) 2

(2 players)
Hero bets 7,589, MP3 raises to 21,327, [color="red"]Hero ??

no reads.

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08-25-2011 , 08:20 AM

furo

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fold pre readless vs these many 3bshoving stacks, i'd open ~77+/AJ and if they are all nits i'd open blockers to their shoving ranges like Ax and never 22-66 as well.

whats the question postflop? dont use the f-word with 4 letters.

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08-25-2011 , 08:26 AM

LetItBe777

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Originally Posted by furo

lol.

the thing is that hes new at the table. i have the image of a nit at this table so i can open wide to steal blinds, espically from utg

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08-25-2011 , 08:37 AM

Texas Chuck

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if u are opening 22 to steal then u can basically open atc since u have to fold it to a 3b. I doubt an atc open is profitable from utg with these stacks so Furo is dead on about pre.

Not sure what ur ? is about post but hes not folding so stick it in and dodge his draw.

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08-25-2011 , 10:57 AM

gregz41

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put it this way OP, even if he showed me 99 I'm not folding

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08-25-2011 , 11:40 AM

camz2895

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this is one of the tourneys i miss most since black friday. sigh.

Get all your chips in

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08-25-2011 , 11:41 AM

_Koby_

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fold pre, as played just shove an be happy about it,

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08-25-2011 , 02:27 PM

JoeDiego

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I don't understand what you want to know? He's not folding so do what you want...are you seriously asking if we should fold the flop.

100% fold pre.

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08-25-2011 , 02:35 PM

ssnyc

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Originally Posted by furo

well said green dude

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08-29-2011 , 10:45 AM

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Pardyallthetime

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shove now, but with the amount of <20bbish stacks behind I think a preflop fold is fine.

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08-30-2011 , 04:13 AM

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gollyheck

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I like flatting. It's amazing how often people fold when you know they aren't folding.

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08-30-2011 , 09:08 AM

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Texas Chuck

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Originally Posted by gollyheck

I like flatting. It's amazing how often people fold when you know they aren't folding.

they are actually much more likely to stop putting chips into the pot when u make a lolihasamonster flat. You arent ever flatting an overpair/big draw here.

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08-30-2011 , 11:03 AM

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TheSwan

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Have to agree with Chuck on this one. The board texture is wet as hell, jamming here is pretty much always the right option unless you have some sick reason to believe you would get more value out of a stop-go. Footnote***Fold Pre lol

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08-30-2011 , 02:16 PM

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gollyheck

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So with 2/3 of a pot behind you think he won't follow through with bluffs and will check/fold his medium value hands?

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08-30-2011 , 02:45 PM

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Texas Chuck

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Originally Posted by gollyheck

So with 2/3 of a pot behind you think he won't follow through with bluffs and will check/fold his medium value hands?

He would have to have a ton of pure bluffs in his range to make flatting oop better and he just doesnt.

Last edited by Texas Chuck; 08-30-2011 at 02:45 PM. Reason: Ive never posted this but it seems like the right time---DUCY?

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08-30-2011 , 03:55 PM

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marek_heinz

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Never open this pre with this stacksize

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08-30-2011 , 06:01 PM

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gollyheck

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What does he raise flop with and not continue that he would go with if we jam with 2/3 pots behind? I guess hearts may check back turn and give up? Would a 9 fold later streets?

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08-30-2011 , 06:06 PM

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Texas Chuck

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yeah hearts,JT,67 all take 2 free cards. If he raises 9x otf Im guessing he still jams most turns but hes not gonna love a lot of cards so he may even slow down there.

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08-30-2011 , 09:45 PM

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b0b4fame

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kidding me??? flopped set v 24bb stack?

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