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03-02-2010 , 06:32 PM

streetwalkincheeta

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UTG limper limps almost every hand and hits almost every board,is a drooler on a heater.Do I bet/call,bet/fold or check?Sizing?
Poker Stars $5.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t200 - 9 players
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MP1: t22578 M = 4.70
Hero (MP2): t63714 M = 13.27
CO: t44744 M = 9.32
BTN: t40978 M = 8.54
SB: t35908 M = 7.48
BB: t44551 M = 9.28
UTG: t142075 M = 29.60
UTG+1: t75181 M = 15.66
UTG+2: t34732 M = 7.24

Pre Flop: (t4800) Hero is MP2 with T

UTG calls t2000, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t2000, 1 fold, Hero raises to t9000, 4 folds, UTG calls t7000, 1 fold

Flop: (t24800) Q

(2 players)
UTG checks,

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03-02-2010 , 06:36 PM

greenrebellion

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Reads on his postflop play? Does he raise with air or only when he has it? I like betting on this flop against most people and I doubt I'm folding to a shove since he could shove so many draws and effective stacks are almost perfect for a check/shove.

So I guess, bet 14K...call a shove. If he flats our flop bet, shove any blank turn.

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03-02-2010 , 06:41 PM

streetwalkincheeta

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Yeah he was very passive,liked the check and the call.Anyway,I bet 13.5k and the drooler shoved,I hate these spots.I'm also quite certain he had no idea about stacksizes

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03-02-2010 , 06:43 PM

Slim Volume

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If he is loose passive post b/f seems a lot better than b/c.

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03-02-2010 , 06:55 PM

greenrebellion

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Originally Posted by Slim Volume

If he is loose passive post b/f seems a lot better than b/c.

Even though he's passive, I think his range is just too wide for us to fold here. We'd have to have a really good read that he just calls down draws and never shoves them to be able to put him solely on a Q here.

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03-02-2010 , 07:16 PM

Slim Volume

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I don't know, I feel like this is always a scenario where I wind up giving villain too much credit for the draws he could be shoving. I agree I'd like a better read on how he plays his draws specifically, but if the guy is loose-passive, shouldn't our default be to assume he's NOT check-shoving them?

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