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01-31-2010 , 06:05 PM

SuLi

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 297

Wiz wants me to call here if villain pushes 17% or wider but I really don't like it. I am the shortstack if I loose and I am SB next hand with bigstack in BB.
What do you think?

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t40 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: t1220 M = 1.45
CO: t950 M = 1.13
BTN: t1385 M = 1.65
SB: t4335 M = 5.16
Hero (BB): t1895 M = 2.26
UTG: t5215 M = 6.21

Pre Flop: (t840) Hero is BB with T

2 folds, CO raises to t910 all in, 2 folds, Hero ???

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01-31-2010 , 07:20 PM

TeamTrousers

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,894

I think I agree with Wiz. If the blinds go up at the wrong time from your point of view, then there is a plausible scenario where you are effective shorty even if you fold.

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01-31-2010 , 10:27 PM

zachaser

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,102

Who else is calling this? I fold in this spot, since there's two other shortstacks, but if I can be convinced this is correct than I may have identified a leak.

At OP: Good hand to post, I get in these maginal spots all the time and I wonder what the correct play is.

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01-31-2010 , 11:48 PM

EnderFFX

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Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,432

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Originally Posted by SuLi

2 folds, CO raises to t910 all in, 2 folds, Hero ???

I this really depends on the two big stacks. Is the one in front of you playing cop or is he giving everyone a freebee? If he is calling everything under the sun you may need to call this. Then again, with three short stacks so close together I would assume they are going to duke it at some point in the next time around.

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02-01-2010 , 12:38 AM

Teferi

adept

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 716

I'd fold QTo here as iirc it's a very marginal call but if you apply this concept at the wrong time it can be very -EV. I'd probably call like KJ+ tho given that the blinds are 200/400,

the player to your left's tightness should have a large impact on your decision too since you may be able to steal next hand if you have the right opponent in the BB

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02-01-2010 , 01:11 AM

zachaser

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,102

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Originally Posted by Teferi

You got any math on this? KJ+ seems kinda arbitrary for the situation. Hero is getting 3.4 to 1 on the call, I don't know that QT differs that much from KJ with those odds.

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02-01-2010 , 04:06 AM

Teferi

adept

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 716

no math I've done myself, rather long hours spent screwing around with SNGwiz. like I said I think QT is like a .2 call so I'd usually just let it go since similar spots can be -2.0 and they look almost the same when you're multitabling so to me it's not worth it

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02-01-2010 , 05:14 AM

Teferi

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 716

here ya go KJ+ =p

without the default -10% edge it's KQ+/A8+

you should check that you're edge isn't set to something odd op.

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