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08-05-2010 , 06:43 AM

Rios111

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 117

This hand happened just after add-on time ended. No stats, no reads. I think he can't have anything except full-house, don't I?

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (UTG+1): t14860 99.07 BBs
UTG+2: t10375 69.17 BBs
MP1: t3352 22.35 BBs
MP2: t5289 35.26 BBs
CO: t9050 60.33 BBs
BTN: t4925 32.83 BBs
SB: t8561 57.07 BBs
BB: t5050 33.67 BBs
UTG: t3450 23 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is UTG+1 with 3

1 fold, Hero calls t150, 5 folds, SB calls t75, BB checks

Flop: (t450) K

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t300, SB calls t300, BB folds

Turn: (t1050) 5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t750, SB raises to t1500, Hero calls t750

River: (t4050) A

(2 players)
SB bets t6611 all in, Hero folds

Final Pot: t4050
SB wins t4050

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08-05-2010 , 06:48 AM

blind squirrel

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Fold pre and as played I wouldn't bet flop. Turn I'd prolly just get it in, river is a good fold I think.

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08-05-2010 , 06:51 AM

Rios111

centurion

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On flop we had third pair and maybe the best hand so why not to bet...

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08-05-2010 , 06:51 AM

justgoogleme

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 243

As above, Fold pre< if you want to be entering the hand then raise to mix it up. Def check that flop, on the turn I would also shove. V disciplined fold on river

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08-05-2010 , 06:52 AM

justgoogleme

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Originally Posted by Rios111

On flop we had third pair and maybe the best hand so why not to bet...

because we have third pair in a 3 way limped pot

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08-05-2010 , 06:54 AM

blind squirrel

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Flop bet is turning the hand into a bluff. You rarely fold out better hands here but might get raised, which sucks. I think getting a free card to see the turn ip > trying to get the pot now (you might win it on turn or river anyhow too)

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08-05-2010 , 06:55 AM

furo

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fold pre

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08-05-2010 , 06:58 AM

daviid

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a limp is almost always horrible imo.

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08-05-2010 , 07:20 AM

Rios111

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 117

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Originally Posted by blind squirrel

Many turn cards can be dangerous for us...

What about preflop, maybe you're right, guys. But I think while stacks are rather deep, it's still possible play. What do you think about postflop?

Last edited by Rios111; 08-05-2010 at 07:27 AM.

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08-05-2010 , 08:21 AM

#10

Atross

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9

I'd fold pre
and call allin on river
All you can fear here is flush but rearise on turn is somehow strange. If he had rly flush he'd check raise or just raise it to half pot.
Probably that is bad move but i'd call it

If calling river is bad please explain why. Ty!

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08-05-2010 , 08:46 AM

#11

seagraham

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 900

Doesnt seem like a hard fold at all, mainly because you cant beat a single hand except for a bluff, and he is probably bluffing ~0%. Fold>>>>Raise>Limp pre.

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08-05-2010 , 08:49 AM

#12

Atross

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9

Things that beat u
AA KK 99
5A
5K
2 hearts
First 4 hands doesnt seem like his range
so we only get beaten by flush
I just cant give him flush with this kind of play.

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08-05-2010 , 08:55 AM

#13

seagraham

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Originally Posted by Atross

Things that beat u
AA KK 99
5A
5K
2 hearts
First 4 hands doesnt seem like his range
so we only get beaten by flush
I just cant give him flush with this kind of play.

What hands would he be doing this with that we beat

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08-05-2010 , 09:17 AM

#14

Atross

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Any 2 pairs, top pair, bluff

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08-05-2010 , 09:24 AM

#15

mattwut1

adept

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,032

weird weird hand imo probs has K5 or 95

but could just as easily have something crazzyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

i dont know, tossing coins is gooooooooD

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08-05-2010 , 09:29 AM

#16

2f4u

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if he snapshoved this is a call

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08-05-2010 , 09:29 AM

#17

seagraham

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Originally Posted by Atross

Any 2 pairs, top pair, bluff

Top pair=2 pair. So you have to throw out all other 2 pairs, and it just leaves us with Ace x. Now, in order to not have a full house, that x cant be a card on the board. That means the villain would have to call the flop, and min raise the turn, both with just ace high.

Most likely scenario is villain has A5. I guess he could have like QJhh as well.

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08-05-2010 , 10:06 AM

#18

Atross

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Originally Posted by seagraham

So calling river AI is good? or still is it bad?

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08-05-2010 , 11:48 AM

#19

seagraham

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Originally Posted by Atross

So calling river AI is good? or still is it bad?

In the majority of the cases, it is bad

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08-05-2010 , 12:28 PM

#20

ssnyc

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pre is really bad...just fold or if you like the way the hand looks just raise it up

I actually don't mind the flop bet..we are in position and can rep strength after two checks and our hand will rarely ever be good at showdown...flop bet it good IMO...

turn bet is good

I'd call the river....given your betting I have a hard time accepting a backdoor flush draw...close river though

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