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03-03-2011 , 10:08 PM
i have a question regarding your pushing ranges when you are in the SB and it's been folded to you. Of course it depends on a number of factors, like your stack and BB's stack compared to the blinds, but am i doing these right ?

1) if I am against a very tight player, i push any two cards.

for example:
Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t80.00/t160.00 Blinds - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos


Hero (SB): t1150.00 7.19 BBs
BB: t1970.00 12.31 BBs - VPIP: 5, PFR: 3, 3B: 1, AF: Infinity, Hands: 193

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is SB with 7 K
5 folds, Hero raises to t1150

or

Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t120.00/t240.00 Blinds - 5 players
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[b]Hero (SB): t2870.00 11.96 BBs
BB: t1750.00 7.29 BBs - VPIP: 12, PFR: 7, 3B: 11, AF: Infinity, Hands: 85


Pre Flop: (t360) Hero is SB with 6 5
3 folds, Hero raises to t2870



2) I also do this against a looser player, but i don't know i should do this to players with a VPIP of 20-30


Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800.00/t1600.00 Blinds - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (SB): t17198.00 10.75 BBs
BB: t28730.00 17.96 BBs - VPIP: 24, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 4.3, Hands: 112


Pre Flop: (t2400) Hero is SB with 4 7
1 fold, Hero raises to t17198

i mean how many times are they going to wake up with something to call me there for this not to be profitable ? I also play the micro stakes (currently $1) in which I am sure very very few players know that i am pushing very wide or ATC and should call me with a modest holding like K9 for example.
From the calls i got, I've only been called by these ranges: A2+, K10+, 55+

3) against loose players i push A2+, K9s+, K10+, any PP. is this ok ?
am I doing this right ?
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03-03-2011 , 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmfbpi
i have a question regarding your pushing ranges when you are in the SB and it's been folded to you. Of course it depends on a number of factors, like your stack and BB's stack compared to the blinds, but am i doing these right ?

1) if I am against a very tight player, i push any two cards.

for example:
Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t80.00/t160.00 Blinds - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos


Hero (SB): t1150.00 7.19 BBs
BB: t1970.00 12.31 BBs - VPIP: 5, PFR: 3, 3B: 1, AF: Infinity, Hands: 193

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is SB with 7 K
5 folds, Hero raises to t1150

or

Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t120.00/t240.00 Blinds - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos


[b]Hero (SB): t2870.00 11.96 BBs
BB: t1750.00 7.29 BBs - VPIP: 12, PFR: 7, 3B: 11, AF: Infinity, Hands: 85


Pre Flop: (t360) Hero is SB with 6 5
3 folds, Hero raises to t2870



2) I also do this against a looser player, but i don't know i should do this to players with a VPIP of 20-30


Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800.00/t1600.00 Blinds - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (SB): t17198.00 10.75 BBs
BB: t28730.00 17.96 BBs - VPIP: 24, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 4.3, Hands: 112


Pre Flop: (t2400) Hero is SB with 4 7
1 fold, Hero raises to t17198

i mean how many times are they going to wake up with something to call me there for this not to be profitable ? I also play the micro stakes (currently $1) in which I am sure very very few players know that i am pushing very wide or ATC and should call me with a modest holding like K9 for example.
From the calls i got, I've only been called by these ranges: A2+, K10+, 55+

3) against loose players i push A2+, K9s+, K10+, any PP. is this ok ?
am I doing this right ?
I don't know about FT but on PS regs will call you with K9o all the time, and worse if they think you are on ATC. It also matters whether they think of you as a reg or a random as they will call you much wider if they think you're a reg. Most randoms won't call with stuff like K9o, though, so the main thing is identifying which players are which. Then you can estimate their calling ranges and stick the hands in SNGWIZ.

I don't have WIZ open atm, but if you think they are calling now wider than A2+, KT+, 55+, then all three of those are shoves I think.
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03-03-2011 , 10:30 PM
they are not calling wider than that.in the 208 times I've tried this, very rarely did the BB call with a wider range. is that not a shove then ? i mean i don't want a showdown i want to steal the sb+bb with a high success rate, so if you know the BB is tight in that spot and will only call A2+, KT+, QJ and 55+ isn't that an ATC push ? (also, the regulars on the $1 do not call you wider either. They're mostly nits)
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03-03-2011 , 10:43 PM
1st hand is close to atc for me probably 75% or so. You're under 10bbs. 2nd hand yeah BB is under 10bbs but we're sitting way pretty I'd be more like 50%. Last hand is just burning money for me. Risk/reward is crap. Limpy dimpy let's see some floppage.
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03-04-2011 , 04:24 AM
My saying has always been "Cant win by folding from the sb in un-opened pots".... The key here is preasure...so shove...imo
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