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10-09-2010 , 10:56 AM
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Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t339/t1200 Blinds + t75 - 7 players
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BB: t4525 M = 2.19
UTG: t39255 M = 19.02
UTG+1: t7620 M = 3.69
MP: t6512 M = 3.16
Hero (CO): t7097 M = 3.44
BTN: t2077 M = 1.01
SB: t414 M = 0.20

Pre Flop: (t2064) Hero is CO with J J
UTG raises to t39180 all in, 2 folds
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10-09-2010 , 11:46 AM
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hero snapcalls

dunno payout structure
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10-09-2010 , 11:47 AM
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youre kidding right?
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10-09-2010 , 11:56 AM
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And how do you think he accumulated this huge stack? Shoving ATC preflop.
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10-09-2010 , 12:28 PM
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Yea its kind of scary considering you are in a good situation to wait out a couple people, but this is the kind of spot where you have to increase your risk tolerance if you want to maximize your profit. This is absolutely a spot to get it all-in, even if you'll get knocked out of the tournament 20-40% of the time.

I'd probably call 77+.
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10-09-2010 , 12:44 PM
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snap fold
Last edited by S.K; 10-09-2010 at 12:45 PM. Reason: o **** u got 5bb's? call
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10-09-2010 , 12:55 PM
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snap fold
Why in the world would you do this to move up a couple bucks? Snap call!!!
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10-09-2010 , 01:41 PM
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hero snapcalls

dunno payout structure
Flat payout structure

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youre kidding right?
No

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And how do you think he accumulated this huge stack? Shoving ATC preflop.
He's not atc wide here, has open folded a couple of times with the huge stack

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Yea its kind of scary considering you are in a good situation to wait out a couple people, but this is the kind of spot where you have to increase your risk tolerance if you want to maximize your profit. This is absolutely a spot to get it all-in, even if you'll get knocked out of the tournament 20-40% of the time.

I'd probably call 77+.
calling 77 here is ICM suicide
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10-09-2010 , 01:52 PM
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UTG needs to be shoving 58% in order for JJ to BE in $EV

If villain is shoving 100% of hands ICM says you should still fold AK/99 and call with TT+. That's why I'm playing more 180s these days, I hate ICM

But as a general guideline I usually like to call 1 PP lower than what wiz suggest in extreme ICM spots.
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10-09-2010 , 01:56 PM
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UTG needs to be shoving 58% in order for JJ to BE in $EV

If villain is shoving 100% of hands ICM says you should still fold AK/99 and call with TT+

That's why I'm playing more 180s these days, I hate ICM
Thanks. And please keep out the the 45s
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10-09-2010 , 01:58 PM
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I heard the 3.25s were dead anyway :P
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10-09-2010 , 01:59 PM
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Ha ha, pipe down. Hopefully was my last ever 3/45!
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10-09-2010 , 08:55 PM
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calling 77 here is ICM suicide
yea that's my favorite form
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10-09-2010 , 09:52 PM
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playing for any other place then first at 3.25/45s is wasting your time.

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I heard the 3.25s were dead anyway :P
the rumors are true, i killed them.
Last edited by FlushThunder; 10-09-2010 at 10:04 PM.
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10-09-2010 , 10:36 PM
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This has to be a call.

If villain is competent hes not doing this with QQ+.
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10-10-2010 , 01:42 AM
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I also call in this spot.
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10-10-2010 , 02:38 AM
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Wager all chips immediately.
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10-10-2010 , 11:26 AM
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ICM, you keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

- Inigo Montoya
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