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09-05-2016 , 02:26 PM
This has been killing me the last few days. Just a small stakes MTT, but these hands late in a tournament affect anyone a lot and it's been bugging me.

I want to improve, really want to improve!

We are down to 40 runners, I'm almost dead average stack wise.

Edit: I think analysing my thought process is best if people dont mind. Just my thought process for 3 betting was I was in position and able to fold to a shove pre-flop, did my sizing price him into calling? Checking the flop, well there's no draws that can hit and I think I could be way ahead or way behind... then he shoves the turn OOP and I guess I didn't think enough at the time. It could be a scared bet with 88-KK, or is that just logic I can use to be calling station?


    Poker Stars, $1 Buy-in (10,000/20,000 blinds, 2,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37426594

    MP1: 941,249 (47.1 bb)
    MP2: 862,792 (43.1 bb)
    MP3: 468,976 (23.4 bb)
    CO: 371,302 (18.6 bb)
    Hero (BTN): 524,694 (26.2 bb)
    SB: 607,388 (30.4 bb)
    BB: 568,768 (28.4 bb)
    UTG+2: 91,859 (4.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 9
    3 folds, MP3 raises to 60,000, CO folds, Hero raises to 140,000, 2 folds, MP3 calls 80,000

    Flop: (326,000) 7 A A (2 players)
    MP3 checks, Hero checks

    Turn: (326,000) 4 (2 players)
    MP3 bets 326,976 and is all-in, Hero calls 326,976

    River: (979,952) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 979,952 pot
    Final Board: 7 A A 4 8
    MP3 showed J A and won 979,952 (510,976 net)
    Hero showed A 9 and lost (-468,976 net)



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    Last edited by rhmd; 09-05-2016 at 02:36 PM. Reason: Adding information
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    09-06-2016 , 02:59 AM
    Think i would flat the raise pre as he has a good 4bet shove stack size and u can't call it off.

    Would probs just jam the pot since Vil has a pot sized bet left
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    09-06-2016 , 05:53 AM
    It's a gross spot. But meh getting it in at $1 level.
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    09-06-2016 , 12:44 PM
    Pre is spew. Definitely can't fold turn as played.
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    09-07-2016 , 03:02 AM
    What about folding pre? Am i too tight?
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    09-07-2016 , 03:08 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DuDU_Jamon
    What about folding pre? Am i too tight?
    You should flat in position with this hand.
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    09-07-2016 , 03:25 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Glaciem
    You should flat in position with this hand.
    okey, ty, i am too tight pre i guess.
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    09-07-2016 , 10:42 AM
    I actually don't mind the 3 bet pre, although it may be a tad thin with your remaining stack, but I still like it for various reasons. First, you're IP and second you have a hand that flops well enough and the sizing is ok too.

    I haven't looked at the results yet, but I'm assuming that villain had a better ace? Regardless, I think 3 betting is fine, but for sure there is some merit in flatting as well.

    Edit: just saw the results. Still a hand well played IMO
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    09-07-2016 , 01:26 PM
    Thanks for the replies guys, really did take quite a bit from them.

    Can I flip the question around and ask about villains line in this hand? As it's also a spot that can occur quite a bit when faced with a re-raise.

    Obviously I'm always raising his AJo in MP3 when 8 handed, but when raised with the options I'd probably do the following in order of preference when faced with a re-raise from the button:

    1) Fold
    2) Shove
    3) Flat

    Does that sound right?
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    09-07-2016 , 02:11 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rhmd
    Thanks for the replies guys, really did take quite a bit from them.

    Can I flip the question around and ask about villains line in this hand? As it's also a spot that can occur quite a bit when faced with a re-raise.

    Obviously I'm always raising his AJo in MP3 when 8 handed, but when raised with the options I'd probably do the following in order of preference when faced with a re-raise from the button:

    1) Fold
    2) Shove
    3) Flat

    Does that sound right?
    No, I would not play it like that. The raise from the BTN is what would likely have me flat as the first option. People like playing games while IP so this 3 bet would not deter me from playing this hand. So for me it would be:

    1)flat
    2)shove (very villain dependant)
    3)fold
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    09-08-2016 , 03:45 AM
    AJ is a flat facing such a small 3bet oop and depending how often vil has been stealing or 3betting on the btn it can even be a jam

    If you folding this open to a small 3bet by btn with AJo then you're very exploitable
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    09-08-2016 , 07:10 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FranklinDRooseFELT
    Pre is spew. Definitely can't fold turn as played.


    This seems like the only reply that makes any sense ITT IMO


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    09-08-2016 , 03:53 PM
    flat pre for sure, I think your always going broke on that flop any way
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