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4.40 180 man tournament on Stars TT what to do 4.40 180 man tournament on Stars TT what to do

02-03-2011 , 12:46 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 4.4 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG (t3605)
UTG+1 (t3186)
MP1 (t4921)
MP2 (t3055)
CO (t4974)
Button (t2318)
Hero (SB) (t3445)
BB (t1805)

Hero's M: 22.97

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, 10
5 folds, Button bets t200, [color=#CC3333]

We have 45 hands with this opponent. He play 27/18. Stealing 33 % PTR says Status: ICE COLD! but cant help this time at PTR i think
Link:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/sta...rch/bribri0308

I donk like call. I want to shove, but its right?
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02-03-2011 , 12:57 PM
Shoving is fine. RR 600-800 is also fine with a view to call BTN shove. Not calling ever as BB may come along for the ride cheaply and spoil the party.
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02-03-2011 , 01:01 PM
Standard shove
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02-03-2011 , 01:31 PM
you should shove of course. why are you checking his PTR, this is a donkament, try sharkscope or OPR
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02-03-2011 , 01:34 PM
pretty easy shove here
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02-03-2011 , 01:47 PM
What does everyone do if hero had AA in this spot?
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02-03-2011 , 01:56 PM
im not shoving 30+ BB here to win this small pot. I 3bet ~600-800 and this will usually get a fold and imo this looks stronger than a shove. i would call a shove over my 3bet given his stack and money in the pot
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02-03-2011 , 01:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wakes123
What does everyone do if hero had AA in this spot?
I reraise. Think this is the best.
Yesterday play tournament and have a action. I am on BB , sb raise. Have AA. Make 3bet (blinds are 100/200) make 600
He shove
Get call with JJ

Very many hands 3bet or rereraise you if SB raise and you have AA and reraise. Think reraise is the best. Shove is not so good. Opponent meiby fold AQ or smt like that but if he call and hit A or Q ... be happy
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02-03-2011 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ESTingu
I reraise. Think this is the best.
Yesterday play tournament and have a action. I am on BB , sb raise. Have AA. Make 3bet (blinds are 100/200) make 600
He shove
Get call with JJ

Very many hands 3bet or rereraise you if SB raise and you have AA and reraise. Think reraise is the best. Shove is not so good. Opponent meiby fold AQ or smt like that but if he call and hit A or Q ... be happy
LOL, depends on the table, depends on your stack, depends on so many variables donkey cake...
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02-03-2011 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OntheCut
LOL, depends on the table, depends on your stack, depends on so many variables donkey cake...
In this specific situation, if we had AA I think 3 betting to like 485 is better than shoving as most villians will peel pretty wide here and stack off if they hit a piece of the flop. Shoving loses a lot of value as they fold all their marginal button min raising hands, which they may have peeled with to a small 3 bet.

Also, don't call people donkey cake, we are all here to help each other.
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02-03-2011 , 03:01 PM
Who him call donkey? Me ?
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02-03-2011 , 09:57 PM
Quote:
We have 45 hands with this opponent. He play 27/18. Stealing 33 % PTR says Status: ICE COLD! but cant help this time at PTR i think
Link:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/sta...rch/bribri0308
Poker Table Ranting its for cash game stats....Shove all day..You´re way ahead of villians range and he will def call u with worst way to often wich makes it a very profitable play.
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02-03-2011 , 10:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wakes123
What does everyone do if hero had AA in this spot?
If villains is a loose player i make a 2.5x-3x 3Bet to either iso him or induce a jam.
But if according to my read/HUD the guy is super nity/TAG and has a low steal% and/or a high fold to 3Bet% i might flat for either try to keep it on the hand and let him bet all his chips to me and also i may induce the BB to do something crazy behind me cuz a open raise from villains and a flat by the SB doest exactly say strong hands here...lol
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02-03-2011 , 10:06 PM
Shoving is fine imo
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02-03-2011 , 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Potamito
If villains is a loose player i make a 2.5x-3x 3Bet to either iso him or induce a jam.
But if according to my read/HUD the guy is super nity/TAG and has a low steal% and/or a high fold to 3Bet% i might flat for either try to keep it on the hand and let him bet all his chips to me and also i may induce the BB to do something crazy behind me cuz a open raise from villains and a flat by the SB doest exactly say strong hands here...lol
Don't flat w aces.
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02-03-2011 , 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ExpectedV
Don't flat w aces.
Very profitable giving the right circunstances...Dont like playing back at villains and giving away the strenght of my hand...Of course if a NIT/TAG player open raise from UTG im 3betting him 100% of the time cuz i now his range is so tight that he´s gonna be willing to get it in pre flop anyway but, against a LAG player im pretty much (if im in pos) flatting with KK+ and let him abuse me post flop..Like layne Flack says..."Why do the pushing if the donky will do the pulling"
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02-03-2011 , 11:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MillerWhite
im not shoving 30+ BB here to win this small pot. I 3bet ~600-800 and this will usually get a fold and imo this looks stronger than a shove. i would call a shove over my 3bet given his stack and money in the pot
try googling effective stack. Why would u try to get our hand to look stronger?

bad post imo
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02-04-2011 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by locomi
try googling effective stack. Why would u try to get our hand to look stronger?

bad post imo
Lol, thanks?
Why wouldn't we want to rep as strong a hand as possible, we get the most folds taking it down pre while avoiding flips. it's entirely possible villain will call our shove with a hand like KQ for many reasons, he can obv assume we are stealing and also it's an effortless decision for him to just call and hope for the best. while 3betting looks stronger IMO, it also puts the heat and decision on him to fold or shove with no FE with a weak hand. and if he shoves it's a call.

shoving is not bad, i completely understand as i would be doing it myself half the time here, i just think there is more than one way to approach this situation.
I feel re shoving 30BB with TT is just a bit spewy with a nice stack, plus no antes here to help us level out our flips

Last edited by MillerWhite; 02-04-2011 at 04:12 AM.
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