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11-14-2008 , 07:44 PM

Bedz

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,658

No real reads, think he is a slightly loosing player. This is more of a general question, since I've been getting a lot of these hands lately.
Do you guys sometimes fold here?

Full Tilt Poker, $33 + $3 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 150/300 Blinds, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: 2,075
SB: 2,100
Hero (BB): 1,010
UTG: 4,400
MP: 3,250
CO: 665

Pre-Flop: (450) A

dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG raises to 4,400 and is All-In, 4 folds, Hero calls 710 and is All-In

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11-14-2008 , 08:52 PM

Nicktheone

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I think we're way behind his 15BB UTG open shove range, so it would probably be a muck for me here, and ready to shove really really wide on the next SB/BTN

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11-15-2008 , 01:19 AM

TruFloridaGator

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Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 22,791

Just fold, we're absolutely crushed. We can get a better spot even with 2.5x left.

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11-15-2008 , 01:55 AM

ilya

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I would never fold unless maybe you are super confident that you will get a chance to open in the next 2 hands. I expect calling is probably $-EV, but the least -$EV option.

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11-15-2008 , 02:35 AM

DoubleD

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I'm surprized people are saying fold.
First of all, he's not shoving 15BB, since he covers everybody. He's shoving for 11 effective max.
Secondly, I'm pretty sure SNGWiz would say to fold here, but that's cause it doesnt take into account that if you fold you have 0 FE and are pretty much screwed anyways. I can't really imagine folding here.

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11-15-2008 , 07:37 PM

Bedz

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,658

Don't know if bumping allowed here or not, but I didn't really get any A to my Q, so I will do just that. Tell me if it is against the rules and I'll not do it again.

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11-15-2008 , 07:41 PM

R7Forever

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 660

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Don't know if bumping allowed here or not, but I didn't really get any A to my Q, so I will do just that. Tell me if it is against the rules and I'll not do it again.

what??

I´ve put the hand into Wizard and it doesnt allow the SFG option. anyone knows why?

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11-15-2008 , 07:44 PM

-amv83-

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 101

I must be crazy, but this would be a call everyday here.

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11-15-2008 , 07:52 PM

jurrasstoil

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i'm with TFG here.
we are always dominated. I don't think he'd shove 22-44 there.
It's not about absolute handvalue. it's about the value against his range.
I'd call with stuff that is live. like KT+,QT+, preferably suited.

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11-15-2008 , 08:49 PM

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retam

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,590

I would have hesitated and could have been calling in game, and with wiz I just realized it's a pretty big mistake.

Glad I found this one ^^

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