I usually play cash so my SNG game is a bit rusty but I decided to give these matrix things a shot.

UTG and UTG+1 seemed kinda standardish players, not particularly loose or tight. SB is a huge fish who has been routinely limp/calling raises for 1/5 of his stack and folding on the flop or else showing down some crap, so his calling range is probably fairly wide here.

I had AK in this particular hand which I found to be a tough choice. What range should I call here?

$33 $3 Matrix 4x Sit & Go
7 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (675)
UTG 1 (1330)
MP (770)
CO (3419)
BTN (3780)
SB (1050)
Hero (2476)

Blinds: 40/80

Pre-flop: (120, 7 players) Hero is BB A K
UTG goes all-in 675, UTG 1 goes all-in 1330, 3 folds, SB calls 1010, Hero ???

In a normal SnG I would snapfold, but with the Matrix structure I don't know really. Haven't looked at it, but it seems part of your winnings comes from KO'ing ppl as well.
So it could as well be EV to call here. My instinct screams fold though.

Fold. SB range should be KK+, most players QQ+, AKo+. Also keep in mind that at least one ace is probably already taken by either UTG or UTG+1.

Why would your range be different for matrix than "normal" SNGs? I think your a huge dog here, and its a definite fold to me. Live to see another hand right? Also, your probably gaining +2 or +1 matrix points by folding here. I doubt your ahead.

jeez whatever happened to reading posts before replying

it would definitely be an easier decision if SB was a standard player and should be calling tight. but i know he is a huge fish and his range is super wide. i'm talking like, any PP, any two broadway, any ace-x.

the only player whose range i'm super concerned about is UTG+1. UTG is very short and obv can be pushing wide, and SB is quite wide. i think given all this dead money we should put serious consideration into calling, even if it wasn't a matrix.

Sorry, I didnt read it lol. I ran it thru pokerstove with some decent ranges.

UTG (Shortstack) = Goes all in with 77, ATs, KQs, ATo+
UTG+1 (Decent Reg) = TT+, AQ+
SB (Maniac) = 22+,A3s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs+,A8o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo
You = AKo

Against these ranges, AKo = 21.9% to win. That makes it a FOLD. Matrix incentive doesn't really apply here. By folding, you basically guarantee yourself 2 survival points (plus the potential for more later on in the tourny), which is more EV (in terms of points) than the 22% chance you get for 9 points (3 KO + 3 survival points)

The key here is UTG+1. I dont think hes going to be iso raising any ligher than that... maybe AJs, thats it, but thats doubtful considering the people behind.

What would I call here? Against those ranges, AKs is 26% to win, JJ is about 29% to win, QQ is 35.7% to win, KK 47% to win, and AA 62.7%

My suggestion? QQ+ Interestingly enough, even if we remove the maniac's range, the answer is still QQ+.

A couple of things though.. the 22% to win is just for the main pot. With all the different stack sizes, it makes for a fairly complicated EV calculation but I think it will be closer to a call than the 22% number would suggest.

Also, we cover UTG+1 by more than 1000 chips anyway. It's not like we don't get those survival points, unless the winners go UTG > SB > UTG+1 > Hero. Also we can still get KO points from the side pots even if we lose the main pot.

UTG+1 is the only person you are going to have a sidepot with. His initial range is 52.3% against AKo. Still makes it a fold IMO.

ZOMG BUT if you win the pot you get 6 KO points and 3 survival points.


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