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33 late shove in Stars 33 late shove in Stars

04-30-2008 , 02:47 PM
sorry for posting so much but in heavy play mode ...Stars $22 tourney...about 220 runners left 180 cash...is there anything else to do here? Can't raise...can't fold (?) so pushing is correct with my stack and antes?

He had AK and turned a K but is the play my only option?

Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter

SB: t27782
BB: t19266
UTG: t40751
UTG+1: t11617
UTG+2: t42932
MP1: t30560
MP2: t8717
Hero (CO): t9344
BTN: t18868

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with 3 3
5 folds
Hero raises to t9294 all in
2 folds
BB calls t8694
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04-30-2008 , 02:51 PM
from LP yeah this is a push.
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04-30-2008 , 02:55 PM
Methinks shove>bet call>fold>bet fold

If you bet call then you have to flip with hands like QT that might've folded.

Besides 22/A3/A2 there aren't any hands that you can entice to play by bet calling that you want to play.
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04-30-2008 , 02:58 PM
Shoving is +ev but you are deep enough to make it t1600 and see what happens. If you have t7000 I shove for sure.
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04-30-2008 , 02:58 PM
Sure, seems like you need to push. The ante don't appear in your post, I guess it's 50. Without ante I guess there is a case for folding, but here the pot is way too big not to be taken ... the positive chip ev you make is outrunning the possible ICM tax for flipping I think.
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04-30-2008 , 02:58 PM
Pushing is def +cEV. There are sometimes I let spots like this pass though. I think sometimes we can look for ~better spots, resteal.etcetc..and sometimes gain a little more LP cred if villns are paying attn...not sure in a 20+2 tho.
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04-30-2008 , 03:01 PM
stacks was borderline and in EP I drop it like it's hot! 15.5BB...
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