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10-28-2014 , 01:26 AM

uhsayer

adept

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,101

I have 22 BB and am covered by the players after me. Should I open jam this? Raise fold?, 180 people left, 117 cash

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10-28-2014 , 01:55 AM

Alexo

old hand

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,245

mr/decide

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10-28-2014 , 01:59 AM

uhsayer

adept

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,101

thanks! is there anything in that spot where i should/could be open shoving

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10-28-2014 , 02:45 AM

Alexo

old hand

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,245

Nah definitely not with that big a stack. You can open jam this with say 17-18 but not 22

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10-28-2014 , 04:10 AM

The_Worm

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 485

Open jam is spewy, mr/f

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10-28-2014 , 04:25 AM

Alexo

old hand

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Originally Posted by The_Worm

mr/f

not necessarily, 4bet jamming is pretty good vs active

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10-28-2014 , 11:31 PM

microstakesfish

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 17

do you guys mr/fold with 33 with 22bb as well from the co/btn/sb?

as an extreme example, it seems that doing this from the sb seems spewy, and open jamming seems better. i could be wrong though. just want an explanation.

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10-29-2014 , 09:05 AM

CrunkMonkey

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the actual blinds/antes # and type of players at the table etc. matters a lot when figuring out how "spewy" it might be to m/r fold.

for example if you're in the sb with no antes in play, it's essentially break even to m/r call vs a pretty unrealistic shoving range of 33+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J3s+,T5s+,95s+,85s+,75s+,65s,A2 o+,K4o+,Q6o+,J7o+,T7o+,98o,87o.

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10-29-2014 , 03:50 PM

microstakesfish

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i'm asking about whether we should just open jam 33 from the sb with 10% antes and 22bb?

similar for btn/co. from what positions should we open-fold, raise/fold, and open-jam?

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10-30-2014 , 06:45 PM

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princekuh1o

adept

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,134

Pretty bad hand to min raise/f... Open fold > jam> minr/f IMO

Stacks are relevant though.. If there's a couple of stacks <10 bb I like 3x/c vs these or 3x /fold to those above that, roughly.

Last edited by princekuh1o; 10-30-2014 at 06:56 PM.

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10-31-2014 , 09:57 PM

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Dragons_Egg

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,861

Your stack is too big to open-jam.

Just open and take it from there.

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11-01-2014 , 03:28 AM

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oldsilver

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Originally Posted by Alexo

not necessarily, 4bet jamming is pretty good vs active

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