Question 1:

Two get paid 65/35 the BTN was super aggro, BB was a random ,call?



Question 2:

If I was the BB and the SB folded what are we calling with?

Question 3:If everyone folds to his shoves for the next 3 hands,I will be in the SB all in and the BB will be all in .Who is at risk to bubble if the big stack wins his all in?

(I'm bad I know,lol)


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $28.83 Buy-in (50/100 blinds, 10 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11550932

BTN: 2,596 (26 bb)
Hero (SB): 192 (1.9 bb)
BB: 212 (2.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J J
BTN raises to 400, Hero ???

Just thinking it over and talking to someone about it ,the BB should be folding everything but QQ+ ,right?

Because he can fold his way round to a 3 way all in with me being at risk,I think ,lol

My thoughts ,all other thoughts are welcome

According to wiz bb has to call atc even if villain shoves only AA and you call only AA lol. Think something's wrong somewhere....

Moderately easy call imo since folding in the money is going to get very messy and random after this hand

in case of tripple all in and bigstack wins the one with 2nd most chips wins second place(split second play money if chips equal), how can you not know that though it happens fairly common?

Not sure how easy it is to call with JJ ,most randoms are calling with ATC in the BB

Which brings me onto my other question I asked, what are you calling with in the BB if I fold ,imo it has to be QQ+

A decent reg who is in the BB should know he can fold his way round to a 3 way all in with me being at risk to bubble.Maybe tough to work out on 18+ tables

but he cant fold his way into 3way, if he folds you shove next hand cose you have more chips than him :P
so he has to call 100% if you call, and very wide if you fold anyways ;p

What I do in BB depends a lot on wether or not I can lag the blinds or not probably, which can be a huge factor here

asuming folds and no blind increase these are stack set ups
Hero/Villain
132/102
122/44
12/32 (both are all in)

So yeah IF that happens BB is in a really good spot to get second

BTN is with 100% certainty on ATC here, JJ does pretty good vs ATC, yeah sure the random will call really wide if we fold but that means he wins 50% of the times too, and we pretty much lose every time if that happens...

1. Folding jacks here is ****ing terrible. You've got 2bb in a top heavy 1st format with jacks, who cares if the other guy is allin behind a lot? Even if I thought he snapped atc I'd snap my JJ and worse
2. Really wide
3. If big stack beats both of you in one hand, person with the most chips at hand start gets 2nd

yeah...what he said

Without doing any maths on on this, at a glance I call JJ and fold TT.

Also, the above 2 posters are ******ed imo.

very funny post.

haha

i agree on both accounts

Jay and Mouldy are one of the best if not the best at Hypers ,i'm below average at them ................so ,what they say goes I guess

Orly. I guess you feel 3% at $7 level is "the best" then. The only ******ed post itt is this

LOL,you don't know who he is then ,I would keep shhh until you know what you're talking about buddy

I guess Jays 3% is terrible to...........don't be afraid to tell us yours though

And neither would you unless you have some magic password that allows you to see blocked stats. I don't have a decent sample in ST's but ICM is ICM. Folding TT is extremely comical. Allow me to demonstrate.

When you call, BB can actually call atc. But BB would never know that, neither would I and anyone in here as BB wouldn't do it either. He will also not realise that he should call 50% when you've folded. Nobody in their right mind is doing that. But if BB did call 100% when you did call, you don't even fold 99. If we make it more realistic and say BB calls around 20% absolute maximum when you call (and that's too wide still imo) and more like 8% when you fold, then you can call 88,AJs.

Tomo knows

The size of your penis doesnt really influence your decision or at least it shouldnt.

Demetri how do you even know that the poster is the player and not just a guy who pretends to be? Tomo earned his respect on this forum through constant good posts over years. Id always respect his opinion over the one from a random guy who just signed here (especially if this guy gives no reasons).

With that said, I deffo call here too. Your folding EV is most likely going to be way lower as it appears to be. And I rather go 3way allin with JJ and 200 chips than 3way with atc and 50 chips. Also I agree that JJ shouldnt be the bottom of your range.

First of I did call with JJ ,also the BB should not be really wide if I fold ,as some above said.

The BB should fold ,because he will be getting a 3 way all in with me being at risk in the next few orbits

Not sure you can compare Tom to Jay and Mouldy,Jay is top of the shark scope lb for hypers in 2011 ,before that he was number 1 for norm 6 man sng......Mouldy (A high stakes FTP Hyper pro)coached Jay for hypers so you do the Maths

I don't think Tom will come close to them guys tbh,a top player will always have more respect from me over a top poster,for the obv reason

But it was good to hear Toms thoughts

Obviously I like input from top players as much as everyone, but you dont know if the poster really is the player or what his intensions are. Some people like to tell you wrong things, because who wants his opponents to improve?

Ronny just don't tap the glass mate!

Isn't this just another reason why we should never be folding TT here and why we can go wider. There simply won't be another spot.

99+ maybe ,but we need to work out which BB are calling in the BB with atc when we fold and which BB will play it correct and do what I said .

Tomo has a great rep here and has helped out dozens of people. The others haven't...if you know them personally off the forums then that's different I guess. Doesn't excuse their belligerence though.

lol whats wrong with that