888 Poker - $28+$2|25/50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 107.1 BB
BB: 23.7 BB (VPIP: 22.83, PFR: 18.33, 3Bet Preflop: 14.63, Hands: 133)
CO: 28.4 BB (VPIP: 20.63, PFR: 9.43, 3Bet Preflop: 2.04, Hands: 163)
BTN: 20.8 BB (VPIP: 22.12, PFR: 13.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 119)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

CO calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 2 players) A J 3
Hero bets 4.5 BB, CO calls 4.5 BB

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, CO bets 19.9 BB, fold



Correct fold? Frustrating because there are some worse hands in his range like a lot of drawers ,pairs and drawer combos, or 2 drawer combos. but just felt to many Ax in his range as well as some 2 pair hands.

I'd rather just put a match to my money than call here. I doubt he has that many hands you beat and even those have redraws against you a lot of the time. It's just a horribad runout for your hand and folding here seems clearly best to me.

I can't see flop being anything but a very standard check.

On this board, I think you can bet to charge draws. Not saying I necessarily would but I'm not against it.

I think betting flop is good. You charge draws and Jx, maybe even 3x and 22+ vs the bigger fishes. It also leaves your range uncapped whereas I think if you check here it's hard to ever have a hand that wants to play for stacks.

Turn might be a decision if he bets 8bb into 18.. When he pots it just fold until you acquire reads that he is crazy.

going to have to strongly disagree with the reasoning so far.

protecting our equity / charging draws isn't an overriding factor when we block reasonable gutters and we have the K , and our hand isn't very vulnerable to hands we're ahead of right now. charging Jx / some weaker PPs that might play this way are more reasonable things to consider but we generally won't get stacks in against a lot of those hands - and if we were focused on that, we are short enough to still get it in betting the turn and the river. I get the sense that this spot is being confused for some 75bb effective situation where we are dying to get it in over 3 streets.

Kaput,
I'm not sure which range (checking or betting) you're saying is being left capped by checking KK, I'm assuming you mean our checking range - but either way you're mistaken.
What we do with KK specifically doesn't necessarily mean anything to how capped/uncapped our ranges are since it isn't in the top grouping of our hands.
I am certainly going to bet and check with better hands than KK.
When you say "hard to ever have a hand that wants to play for stacks" I'm sure you're just thinking about the situation wrong. We have AA, AJ (all of which would want to bet and check some of the time, especially when we have A ), JJ, and a lot of our iso-limp range is Ax. We also have a few FD+GSSD hands that retain their equity against villains narrowing range better than KK will.
Also, in general, being capped is much less of an issue at 20-30bbs than it is when deeper since the same amount of pressure cannot be applied to a capped range when stacks are so short - they can only bet so much, and if it's not enough to make you have to fold the appropriate % of your range then it isn't an issue.


If you're betting half-pot I can't see KK performing better as a bet than as a check.

Youre prob beat. Check flop and bluff catch before you bet/ c/c.

Super read depedent overall btw. If you have over 100 hands on vilian hopefully you have some kind of idea what hes openlimping with here.

There is a chance you are beat, but it feels like on the flop you are more value betting than finding out where you stand. Pocket pairs are super vulnerable because you tend to over play them, or rather have more confidence in them then you should. I would say bet at least the pot, see what he does. If he smooth calls you are maybe in trouble. A queen on the turn you might need to put the breaks on as the board is breaking down for your hand.

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