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11-01-2009 , 12:31 AM

VikingsFan93

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Please let me know your thoughts on this hand. Obviously I am not going to go crazy here with QQ with the micro stack on my left and another player pretty short as well. Just fold this or flat and try to hit set? The player to my right was as tight as a nit as I have seen in a while, 6/1 over 68 hands unfiltered.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 33 Tournament, 80/160 Blinds (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t1165)
Hero (SB) (t4720)
BB (t300)
UTG (t7315)

Hero's M: 19.67

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

, Q

UTG bets t320, 1 fold, Hero?

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11-01-2009 , 12:40 AM

pompeypoker

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i thought this was a tought spot till i realised the BB had 300 left, how can this ever be a fold?

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11-01-2009 , 01:19 AM

superswift

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i raise to like 925 insta call an over shove and feel happy when he hits a 3 outer

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11-01-2009 , 01:49 AM

dionysian

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Originally Posted by pompeypoker

i thought this was a tought spot till i realised the BB had 300 left, how can this ever be a fold?

because the bb has 300 left. obviously.

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11-01-2009 , 03:29 AM

CastleBravo79

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Ship it in and hate it. Call if BB was looser.

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11-01-2009 , 04:15 AM

sence25

Pooh-Bah

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call is good for stated reasons

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11-01-2009 , 05:16 AM

Myst

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call is good.

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11-01-2009 , 06:49 AM

Monkey Banana

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Call seems a lot better than anything else.

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11-01-2009 , 07:07 AM

50 Centimeter

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call and let CO buttsecks you on any non-Q flop if BB folds

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11-01-2009 , 07:10 AM

#10

bagclip2007

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Originally Posted by superswift

i raise to like 925 insta call an over shove and feel happy when he hits a 3 outer

this seems lol bad imo i like flatting and praying bb comes in

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11-02-2009 , 12:35 AM

#11

w00t77

adept

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,037

call and see utg flop and set of Kings against your set of Queens and go busto.

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11-02-2009 , 12:47 AM

#12

soulsbyc

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 545

Anything but flat calling seems silly to me. If you make any sort of raise the BB is going to be more likely to get excited and fold.

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11-02-2009 , 06:55 AM

#13

Deurdy

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Calling would be my standard line in this spot.
We either hope BB joins the pool, or we play this hand postflop, which is not a complete disaster.
We even have position.

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11-02-2009 , 10:56 AM

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NJD77

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I can't imagine why we would ever fold here. Calling is best (and standard), for the following reasons:

1. We entice bb into a 3 way pot and likely bust him, hence putting us ITM.
2. We control the pot size and ensure that UTG is not in a position to exploit us by 4-bet shoving after a BB fold.
3. We under-rep our hand to the point that once BB is in we can bluff-catch UTG big time and not only bust BB but take the chip lead from UTG.

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11-02-2009 , 10:57 AM

#15

The_Admiral

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,468

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Originally Posted by 50 Centimeter

call and let CO buttsecks you on any non-Q flop if BB folds

LoL but true.

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11-02-2009 , 10:57 AM

#16

NJD77

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Originally Posted by Deurdy

We even have position.

Yeah the worst kind of position. Are you still drunk from the weekend derby?

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11-02-2009 , 02:47 PM

#17

Furiotoo

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 98

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Originally Posted by NJD77

^ Spot on.

If BB doesn't call, you are in for some super tricky post-flop play, but at least with your chip stack you can get away from the hand.

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11-02-2009 , 02:52 PM

#18

gonzalo86

old hand

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Originally Posted by NJD77

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11-02-2009 , 03:25 PM

#19

cds0699

LOSING

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Originally Posted by NJD77

I like this

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11-02-2009 , 04:48 PM

#20

Deurdy

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Originally Posted by NJD77

Yeah the worst kind of position. Are you still drunk from the weekend derby?

that's a pretty solid read you have there sir..

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