Hey,

no real read, got moved. How would you play river? Check/fold?
Bet/fold? Check/call?

Line up to river ok?

ThanX!



[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $2.70 Buy-in (800/1,600 blinds, 200 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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MP3: 49,697 (31.1 bb)
CO: 23,061 (14.4 bb)
BTN: 46,683 (29.2 bb)
SB: 20,900 (13.1 bb)
BB: 35,876 (22.4 bb)
UTG+1: 37,864 (23.7 bb)
UTG+2: 18,694 (11.7 bb)
Hero (MP1): 56,722 (35.5 bb)
MP2: 30,401 (19 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A K
2 folds, Hero raises to 3,312, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 3,312, 4 folds

Flop: (10,824) 4 5 K (2 players)
Hero bets 4,915, MP3 calls 4,915

Turn: (20,654) Q (2 players)
Hero bets 8,641, MP3 calls 8,641

River: (37,936) 9 (2 players)
[color="red"]Hero

All in. Still getting value vs lots of Kx. Can you really check/fold readless getting about 2:1 on a call anyway? On a side note is ps really raking 30 cents on a 2.70 buy in? Greedy ****ers if so.

I would be betting to gii ott or otr. So 60% versus a random otf is my sizing. He can have a 5, 4, mid pocket pair 67 78 spades maybe, although a lot of guys raise those even at the small stakes.

When he calls otf and ott he squarely has a K (which we block I know ) and likely a Q. If that queen hits him - which I think it does - or if he can't get away from spades or a str8 draw and if I feel he will bet when checked to - I like a check shove ott. But versus a ssmtt station we can bet and gii otr.

The otr card is a bad card undoubtedly but when the hands that called you that beat you are spades or a backdoor straight or some weirdo two pair or maybe even some sets that played passively and the rest is a plethora of hands that pay you off I am still shipping otr.

...i just thought river is one of the nut worst cards, so hands that i beat now are just KJ, KT, 67 and maybe some Q or 5. Most of that would just check back when checked to otr. So i went with a check fold, because it felt that his river bets where pretty strong (KQ, Strraight, Flushes, twopairs...)

I am not sure if its better to go for value against his checkback range, or save some chips in case he has it...

I agree with you OP, I think river is a c/f. We miss value from KJ/KT when he checks back and that's about it.

bet flop, bet turn, c/f river.

In order for us to c/c river we need to be able to give him some bluffs, and he has basically none. I mean how often is he flatting 76s from MP3 and calling flop and turn on a 30bb stack? It's certainly possible, but not particularly likely imo -- V would have to be a special kind of whale for that.