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02-08-2009 , 01:39 AM
I ran into a tough spot I ran into with QQ at final table, I dont like how I played the hand at all. Villian was 27/16/3.4 over 172 hands. I got lost in hand and I was at a decision for all my chips on river, any advice? Do I raise on flop 100% and get my chips in? How bad did I play this?


Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10000/t20000 Blinds + t2000 - 6 players - View hand 31418
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SB: t998398 M = 23.77
BB: t483892 M = 11.52
Hero (UTG): t702200 M = 16.72
MP: t397150 M = 9.46
CO: t276116 M = 6.57
BTN: t179744 M = 4.28

Pre Flop: (t42000) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to t50000, 3 folds, SB calls t40000, 1 fold

Flop: (t132000) 6 8 7 (2 players)
SB bets t120000, Hero calls t120000

Turn: (t372000) K (2 players)
SB bets t120000, Hero calls t120000

River: (t612000) 7 (2 players)
SB bets t706398 all in, Hero ???
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02-08-2009 , 01:53 AM
I raise flop to 380k and get it in, im not really sure how else to play this hand unless you have solid reads that villian is in love with mid sc's and always flats them pf? If he has a set I chalk it as a cooler but as played I have no idea.
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02-08-2009 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MountainBum
I raise flop to 380k and get it in, im not really sure how else to play this hand unless you have solid reads that villian is in love with mid sc's and always flats them pf? If he has a set I chalk it as a cooler but as played I have no idea.
+1
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02-08-2009 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MountainBum
I raise flop to 380k and get it in, im not really sure how else to play this hand unless you have solid reads that villian is in love with mid sc's and always flats them pf? If he has a set I chalk it as a cooler but as played I have no idea.
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02-08-2009 , 10:20 AM
congrats on your Final Table in this, not easy to get there...

but you absolutely gotta get more chips in on the flop as posters said above. You simply cannot take this line and just check/call 2 consecutive streets PF.

what happened ? I never get to see what happend lol
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02-08-2009 , 11:08 PM
Hey whats up sam, same name on PS? we have played a few times. I dont know why I froze up on hand I normally would RR in that spot almost 100% the time. Ive been in a huge slump lately. I folded. Ended up busting 5th for $270, I had AK against AQ all in PF. Villain in hand ended busting 6th.
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02-08-2009 , 11:53 PM
you simply must raise or shove flop... probably shove IMO. This line lets ak and mid sc's to play perfectly against you. Even shoving the turn might not be that terrible since it avoids this mega-****ty river spot.
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02-09-2009 , 12:26 AM
agree with jamming an the flop
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02-09-2009 , 01:34 AM
Jamming turn to not be in this situation doesn't make sense, if we jam turn we'll prolly fold out all worse but better calls, if we want to put our chips in and didn't raise flop then call call is much better once the king turn comes I think. But def +1 for raise get in on flop.

River is such a tough spot cause once u call turn u pretty much have a good one pair and most likely a king in his eyes yet he still shoves into u and I doubt he expects u to fold, so u probably should. On the other hand tho I can't put him on much, his line is quite indicative of a semi bluff that's missed and is just desperation betting river (betting same on flop and turn that is and then jamming), suppose he could have K9 or KT.

I think if I took ur line I'd probably cry and call river in game but on such a nasty board I'd play the flop very fast and expect to get it in flipping a lot.
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02-09-2009 , 02:33 AM
shove flop. too draw heavy. It would help if u put down some meta-game considerations or reads here however. But w/o reads ship QQ And watch A-10 call.
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02-09-2009 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MountainBum
I raise flop to 380k and get it in, im not really sure how else to play this hand unless you have solid reads that villian is in love with mid sc's and always flats them pf? If he has a set I chalk it as a cooler but as played I have no idea.
yep
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02-09-2009 , 03:42 AM
I`m in the shove flop camp. on the turn the only card above a six you don`t mind seeing is a J (or Q obv). That`s a lot of bad / scare cards so I reckon get it in while you`re (likely) ahead. If it`s a set then as said cooler imo.
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