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11-16-2012 , 11:46 PM

roNAA

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 428

folding or calling river? Villian seemed to be on the looser side.

Poker Stars, $3 Buy-in (125/250 blinds, 30 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14598891

SB: 3,400 (13.6 bb)
BB: 8,690 (34.8 bb)
UTG+2: 1,875 (7.5 bb)
MP1: 18,675 (74.7 bb)
Hero (MP2): 22,800 (91.2 bb)
MP3: 2,303 (9.2 bb)
CO: 30,773 (123.1 bb)
BTN: 10,855 (43.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K

2 folds, Hero raises to 500, 4 folds, BB calls 250

Flop: (1,365) J

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 844, BB calls 844

Turn: (3,053) 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (3,053) K

(2 players)
BB bets 1,500, Hero calls 1,500

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11-17-2012 , 12:36 AM

fidstar-poker

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 33,566

Yes call.

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11-17-2012 , 03:45 AM

xamlop

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,412

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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker

Yes call.

What exactly do you think vilain's range his ? How could he possibly have air ? Do we really expect him to turn 8x or Jx into a bluff ? It's a 3$ tourney, 90% of players doesn't even considerer that option...

So given the fact that vilain can't have air and is not value betting worse, I'd say this is a pretty easy fold (and this would be an easy value bet when he checks, of course).

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11-17-2012 , 07:37 AM

nada

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 564

i think barrelling the turn wouldnt be so bad, if he calls turn you'll know where your at on the river

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11-17-2012 , 08:52 AM

Elephants_pride

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 5,043

turn is good
fold river

u bosses stop mr-ing pre in small buyin tournies. u lose value vs their wider range and allow those guys who dont fold bottom pair to double barrel to peel very wide to your complete disadvantage.

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11-17-2012 , 09:36 AM

fidstar-poker

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 33,566

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Originally Posted by xamlop

I think he can call the flop with a bunch of Js or something like 9T. He could also just be floating and now betting after we showed weekness on the turn. We arent always ahead, but I think 3 to 1 is ok.

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11-18-2012 , 11:37 PM

roNAA

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 428

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Originally Posted by Elephants_pride

I min raise because I want them to call with a wide range (keep hands I dominate in). Also why would I want them to fold bottom pair to a double barrel when I have the best hand?

min raise forces your opponent to play postflop where I have an advantage and he is inexperienced, I min raise cause I WANT villian to call so I can outplay him 3 streets postflop in position.

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11-19-2012 , 01:01 AM

Dragons_Egg

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,861

You don't beat anything villian bets on the river except a bluff, which I don't think makes up much of villian's range.

I don't know if villian is a thinking player but that K on the river hits a decent amount of your raise pre, c-bet flop, check turn range.

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11-19-2012 , 08:30 AM

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

all you beat is a bluff, so prolly fold

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11-19-2012 , 08:18 PM

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bozaking

enthusiast

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Originally Posted by furo

all you beat is a bluff, so prolly fold

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