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07-22-2008 , 05:49 AM

Fragui

grinder

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 509

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 6 players
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MP: t1485
Hero (CO): t1785
BTN: t3070
SB: t1525
BB: t4240
UTG: t1395

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with A

UTG calls t30, MP calls t30, Hero calls t30, 2 folds, BB checks

Flop: (t135) A

(4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t60, MP calls t60, Hero raises to t205, BB folds, UTG raises to t450, MP calls t390,

Spoiler:

Would you have folded there please ?
What if MP folds ?

Last edited by Fragui; 07-22-2008 at 06:01 AM.

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07-22-2008 , 08:16 AM

sence25

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,676

I shove it, you're called by A2o

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07-22-2008 , 08:27 AM

5ko

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 305

I push here all day long.

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07-22-2008 , 08:34 AM

retam

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,590

Shove pliz.

Villains could have a better hand, but often they have TP, or a pair + a draw or all kind of stuff. You are probably ahead, you have to protect your strong but vulnerable hand, villains like their hands, perfect moment to triple up ^^

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07-22-2008 , 08:51 AM

martindavies1982

adept

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 815

Does no one fold here? on a draw heavy board and a reraise and call of your reraise? What do you beat? AK would have raised pre, AQ has u beat, KT has a straight and throw in the two hearts you are prob up against a straight draw and a flush draw. Are people only shoving cos of the low buy in?

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07-22-2008 , 09:01 AM

Fragui

grinder

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 509

If vilains have KT and 67h I have about 23% to win

If vilains have A3o and 67h I have about 56% to win

edit : If I shove and I'm only called by one player, who has KT I've 22% to win.

Last edited by Fragui; 07-22-2008 at 09:12 AM.

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07-22-2008 , 09:22 AM

martindavies1982

adept

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 815

Exactly! even in a best case scenario you are only slight favourite to win the hand. In the other two scenarios you are 3 or 4/1 dog! there are too many cards to miss on the turn and river any heart, K, T will hurt you (if they dont already have a made hand! i.e straight, trips (although trips is very unlikely))

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07-22-2008 , 09:31 AM

Fragui

grinder

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 509

the question is " do you think someone could limp a hand like A5 utg, then bet half the pot, and re-raise my 3,5 bet " ?

<3 micro limit

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07-22-2008 , 11:07 AM

Takeover_inc

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 618

i shovel like a bandit.

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07-22-2008 , 01:27 PM

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JMX

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,720

Easy shove. No worry about MP, since it's quite obvious he's on a draw with either hearts, K, or 10. With MP putting all those chips into the pot, it gives even a bigger incentive to push. Just way too many hands you can beat here.

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07-22-2008 , 05:06 PM

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konvert

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 380

I think you gotta raise preflop with that hand so at the very least you can narrow down the hands you're up against, if not take the pot down from someone playing K/10 etc. Other than that, TBH I fold here. Its really early in the tourney and im gonna tilt the scales towards being WB before WA.

Im interested in someone breaking down why they prefer shoving rather than just stating its the obvious correct play.

Just my 2(+2) cents...
-Konvert

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07-22-2008 , 05:15 PM

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Beerocrat

champion of the sun

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,931

Why are you only looking at the ranges where you are beat?

It seems like you decided they have KT or AQ, when you see all types of ******ed **** here you crush in a 3.40.

Limping behind preflop is ok, folding is fine, but I wouldn't raise.

I get it in here.

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