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3.4-KK whats my turn line? 3.4-KK whats my turn line?

09-11-2007 , 05:10 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1420)
MP3 (t1480)
CO (t1310)
Button (t1240)
SB (t1860)
BB (t1460)
Hero (t1480)
UTG+1 (t1680)
UTG+2 (t1570)
MP1 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K.
Hero raises to t80, 3 folds, MP2 calls t80, MP3 calls t80, 1 fold, Button calls t80, 1 fold, BB calls t60.

Flop: (t410) 8, 4, J (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t360, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t360, Button folds, BB folds.

Turn: (t1130) J (2 players)
Hero ????

Its early, no reads. How should I play this now that the jack paired? Also, if I'm going to get 4 callers from UTG which I always seem to, should I be raising more PF?
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09-11-2007 , 05:20 PM
Preflop is fine. I probably just shove this, at this level there's a hell of a lot villain will fold or call with that we beat, he doesn't have to have a jack here
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09-11-2007 , 05:21 PM
4 BB should be big enough of a raise, even on $3.4.

I like your flop bet.

On the turn any bet commits you but pushing is not a good idea, because draws will just give it up (which is not necessary bad), but every hand that beats you will probably call and not many hands which you have beat call here.

I guess you have to check the turn even though this might be weak and gives Villian a FreeCard. It's a good question and I would like to hear the opinion from some good players!

PS: Please tell me if I am giving shiddy advise, but that's probaly the way I would play this hand.
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09-11-2007 , 05:41 PM
Don't put anymore money in this pot after the flop, unless you improve or he checks the turn. then you can make a small river bet if a blank hits to stop a bluff.

His call on the flop with two players left behind him represents a very strong hand. Wouldn't be surprised to see a three jacks, full house, and at the very worst of his hands a flush draw with one or two overs.

Your preflop raise is fine BTW, very good size. After this hand you could make it even bigger with a premium hand having seen the looseness of your opponents.
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09-11-2007 , 05:58 PM
I don't think you can read that a call with two behind shows all that much at this level. I think sixfour is right, a lone jack is raising this flop like 90% of the time. I think my range for villian after the flop needs to be something like 4's, 8's, probably 77+, possibly J8, FD's, and maybe AK. I'm curious as to whether Niggel's line or sixfour's line is "better" though.
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