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04-02-2008 , 03:19 PM

TelevisedEvent

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 600

I don't think this is a standard, nor is it a donkey play. Also, I don't have any reads on the SB or BB at this point.

Full Tilt Poker $20 + $2 Sit & Go No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40/t80 Blinds - 6 players

MP: t3890
CO: t850
Hero (BTN): t1270
SB: t4510
BB: t2230
UTG: t750

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with T

3 folds, Hero calls t80, blinds left to act...

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04-02-2008 , 03:23 PM

KidDelicious

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 582

blinds are high(ish) never limp. fold or raise w/o a read. a raise commits yourself, but a raise can be justified (200) if the blinds are tight nits. w/o reads, fold. save your chips. you have enough to conserve w/o taking marginal risks.

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04-02-2008 , 03:44 PM

AMT

Charlie Brown of MTTs

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I don't really like it, but it's good that you're thinking about this stuff to some extent....there is a fine line between unusual and FPS. In the archives somewhere, Raptor made a great post about open limping the button. I'm not at home now and don't have time to find it, but someone should go digging and re-post here, perfect thread for it.

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04-02-2008 , 03:51 PM

sippin_criss

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,778

i think it's a poor play especially since you have no reads on the blinds. very rarely i open limp the button but generally it sucks because they can raise you and you have to fold, and you give them a free look at the flop and you can get into messy postflop spots.

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04-02-2008 , 04:07 PM

TelevisedEvent

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 600

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Originally Posted by AMT

I don't really like it, but it's good that you're thinking about this stuff to some extent....there is a fine line between unusual and FPS. In the archives somewhere, Raptor made a great post about open limping the button. I'm not at home now and don't have time to find it, but someone should go digging and re-post here, perfect thread for it.

I'm a noob. whats FPS?

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04-02-2008 , 04:15 PM

Beerocrat

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Fancy Player Syndrome

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04-02-2008 , 04:34 PM

gcDanno

grinder

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raise if blinds are nits and fold if blinds are active. Limp is teh sux.

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04-02-2008 , 05:23 PM

unrealzeal

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Limp is practically giving away chips cause it's only jack high so you might as well raise.

You can raise with any two on button if BB folds to most c-bets.

Folding is fine for a little while but we have to steal one every orbit and this one isn't bad.

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04-02-2008 , 05:35 PM

CrescentMoon

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hero raises to 200.

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04-02-2008 , 06:09 PM

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Aussie Rhino

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If you've never played with the villains before, I'd say it's on the wrong side of FPS. If I see multiple-limpers coming into me late in position and the pot is worth stealing, I'll try and grab it. I think limping is a mistake. Dunno what it is of late, but I've seen so much limping that Stars / FTP could hire a physiotherapist!

If you have a strong hand, you don't want to play a 4, 5 or 6-way pot. If you have a possible draw (and this one isn't even suited), you'd have to fold to a substantial reraise.

In this case, you have no information about your opponents who significantly outchip you at this point.

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04-02-2008 , 06:13 PM

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Staafy

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Originally Posted by Aussie Rhino

good point, we don't want to create a 6way pot here from the button, therfore limping is bad.

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