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(22) - sanity check. TPTK, dry board, vs. really bad player. You CALL his shove, right?

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08-27-2009 , 10:56 PM

mtagliaf

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,649

Sharkscope says villain is a stunning negative 47% with 1500 tourneys played. He has lost more on FT than my motorcycle cost. So that's my read here. Just need a sanity check.

Full Tilt Poker, $20 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 20/40 Blinds, 7 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: 2,905
SB: 1,430
BB: 1,605
UTG: 3,080
UTG+1: 1,425
MP: 1,395
Hero (CO): 1,660

Pre-Flop: (60) Q

dealt to Hero (CO)
3 folds, Hero raises to 120, BTN folds, SB calls 100, BB calls 80

Flop: (360) 2

(3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 240, SB calls 240, BB folds

Turn: (840) 2

(2 Players)
SB bets 1,070 and is All-In, Hero ???

TPTK, dry board, villain is shoving on a paired deuce in a raised pot. I absolutely have to call this, right?

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08-27-2009 , 11:00 PM

onetimeplz81

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 72

never fold this here, he could be shoving with a bunch of crap like Q 10, hearts, or even some type of gutshot... hi5 your monitor and go with it

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08-27-2009 , 11:00 PM

Bandgeek

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Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 265

If he shoved the flop I'd call expecting to see a weaker Q.....when he donk shoves the turn, I think it's almost always trip deuces.

You're reasoning that a 2 shouldn't be in his range because it's a raised pot, but you also have verified that he's a losing player, and losing players lose because they play crappy hands trying to "get lucky"

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08-27-2009 , 11:05 PM

Bandgeek

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BTW, did you check him out at shark scope before or after this hand was over?

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08-27-2009 , 11:06 PM

mtagliaf

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Bandgeek (great handle, BTW, from a fellow HS band geek), your reasoning is perfectly sound, but you still can't fold, right?

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Originally Posted by Bandgeek

BTW, did you check him out at shark scope before or after this hand was over?

After, of course, SS isn't allowed on Full Tilt anymore.

Last edited by mtagliaf; 08-27-2009 at 11:14 PM.

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08-27-2009 , 11:53 PM

Jabong82

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Yah supah EZ call. If he has a 2 well LOL. This maybe seems like a flush draw?

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08-28-2009 , 12:07 AM

DeepFryer

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Easy call. But this can't be a flush draw IMO - even a complete donk wouldn't call on the flop with nothing. Looks like QJ or something like that.

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08-28-2009 , 12:44 AM

Bandgeek

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Originally Posted by mtagliaf

Bandgeek (great handle, BTW, from a fellow HS band geek), your reasoning is perfectly sound, but you still can't fold, right?

After, of course, SS isn't allowed on Full Tilt anymore.

Well if you didn't check until after, then I guess you have to call....but if you knew beforehand that he was a donkey, you could just lolfold and then rape his big blind from the button for the rest of the game.

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08-28-2009 , 01:25 AM

pompeypoker

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Originally Posted by Bandgeek

don't really agree with this.

and i'm always using sharkscope before and during sngs on fulltilt. (before for partial game selection)

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08-28-2009 , 02:02 AM

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Bandgeek

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Originally Posted by pompeypoker

don't really agree with this.

and i'm always using sharkscope before and during sngs on fulltilt. (before for partial game selection)

That's cool. Last time I checked, agreeing with me was -EV

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08-28-2009 , 05:06 AM

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Deurdy

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Snap him off.

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08-28-2009 , 10:50 AM

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Atreyu

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This is a turbo fist pump call. Sorry if he had K2.

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08-28-2009 , 12:22 PM

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7castle

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Yeah snap. You'd need to see his cards to fold this.

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