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, picking off a cbet , picking off a cbet

06-29-2008 , 06:41 PM
Villians numbers are pretty solid at this limit...have seen him make a cbet before

Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
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BB: t1900
UTG: t1990
UTG+1: t1660
UTG+2: t1440
Hero (MP1): t1400
MP2: t1140
CO: t2050
BTN: t1325
SB: t595

Pre Flop: Hero is MP1 with 8 8
3 folds, Hero calls t30, 2 folds, BTN calls t30, SB calls t15, BB raises to t120, Hero calls t90, 2 folds

Flop: (t300) 5 K 3 (2 players)
BB bets t150, Hero raises to t400
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06-29-2008 , 06:49 PM
Hes raising over 3 limpers oop. Id give him credit for some kind of a hand here and just fold.
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06-29-2008 , 06:51 PM
At least make it 500. Your reraise is as weak looking as his bet. Looks like an inverted chicken race.

Alternatively you can just call on the flop. Very often he will check to you on the turn and you can take the hand down with very low risk.
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06-29-2008 , 07:35 PM
Edit: erased comment because I can't read a HH.
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06-29-2008 , 09:15 PM
I don't play these stakes but here's my two cents.
What do you force to fold here? From what I see only QQ, JJ, and AQ can fold, and AQ of hearts will have to call. If his range PF is JJ+ AQ+, KK AA and AK all have you beat and aren't folding. I think you need to choose a better spot to pick of a cbet. As it is you are putting a third of your stack in at low blind levels when you are either a bit ahead (if he has overcards) or way drawing to two outs with no fold equity if he has something.
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06-29-2008 , 09:34 PM
Are u raising this hand as a bluff or to get a worse hand to call ?
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06-30-2008 , 02:35 AM
Alternatively you can just call on the flop. Very often he will check to you on the turn and you can take the hand down with very low risk.

+1
I have been doing this more often against straight-forward players in position, and like it. Cheaper than a raise as well.

Last edited by djkelly69; 06-30-2008 at 02:36 AM. Reason: cos I suck at quoting
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06-30-2008 , 03:16 AM
I'm not sure about flatting the cbet because it might make make villian think their JJ/QQ is good and also allows for AQ to catch up. If you call the flop and villian checks the turn, its not an automatic sign that they are check/folding. If you flat the flop the pot is 600 on the turn, which means I should bet around ~400. Add that to the 150 on the flop and I've risked more chips than just bluff raising the flop (550 vs 400).

The main reason why I posted this was because I wanted to know if it was profitable move, assuming villians preflop range is roughly TT+, AQ+ and will fold this flop with everything besides AK/KK/AA/AhQh

Another thing: Thoughts on raising preflop? 6 handed with 88...hmm

Last edited by jfly; 06-30-2008 at 03:24 AM.
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06-30-2008 , 03:35 AM
Not sure why you are doing this on K-high flop. He's folding half his range if I'm counting right, and you are risking 400 to win 450, and once you correct for ICM, you are struggling to get to break-even. If you want to do this at least wait for a low/ragged flop when you'll fold out a higher percentage of his range.

If you call instead, it's basically a pissing contest, which are things you want to avoid early.

Cliff notes: Wait for a clearer edge.
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06-30-2008 , 04:00 AM
i like the flat here. if you raise to 500, you're putting a huge portion of your stack on the line. just flat it and go from there tbh.
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06-30-2008 , 07:23 AM
<-------- folding, no reason to get fancy that early

As pineapple mentioned, the K is a high part of his range.
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