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02-07-2010 , 08:38 AM

jurrasstoil

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Full Tilt Poker $22 + $2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 5 players
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SB: t2575
BB: t3040
Hero (UTG): t2780
CO: t3110
BTN: t1995

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is UTG with Q

Hero ???

CO is loose, bad and more on the passive side (limps alot)
BTN is a tight breakeven grinder
SB is an aggressive and little loose winning player, haven't seen him before tho
BB is a tight player and i haven't seen him get out of line so far.

would you raise/call or raise/fold and vs. which players?
say you open to 500, CO flats and flop comes K69r, Pot: 1300, stack: 2300?

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02-07-2010 , 11:43 AM

Deurdy

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In this case I would shove, since I wouldn't be happy about a raise/call, which we would have to do if we raise.

In case CO flats after you open pf I'd cbet ~780.

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02-07-2010 , 01:33 PM

JPII

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Hate that hand UTG. I wouldn't know what to do either. I'd prob just fold at those blinds.

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02-07-2010 , 01:44 PM

Deurdy

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Originally Posted by JPII

Hate that hand UTG. I wouldn't know what to do either. I'd prob just fold at those blinds.

Folding AQo 5 handed pf is pretty bad, and will definitely not get you to improve.

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02-07-2010 , 01:46 PM

Glitlr

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I think this is unexploitable to shove pf. I would do 1 of two things. Shove and just hope to take down the blinds cause usually a hand calling you here crushes us (or have the loose guy call AT AJ woot). Orrrr, min raise it up to keep the pot/stack ratio smaller on the flop.

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02-07-2010 , 01:57 PM

VikingsFan93

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Shoving pre is unexploitable here AQo with 14BBs, I would probably just open shove this most of the time. If we were even a few BBs deeper I would tend to open more often to 500 and then play poker after the flop if we get action.

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02-07-2010 , 01:58 PM

JPII

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Originally Posted by Deurdy

Folding AQo 5 handed pf is pretty bad, and will definitely not get you to improve.

I didn't say I would never play AQ UTG, I just said at those blinds I would be a little hesitant. After a raise and a c-bet ur pretty much pot committed.

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02-07-2010 , 02:09 PM

jurrasstoil

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Originally Posted by Glitlr

I think this is unexploitable to shove pf. I would do 1 of two things. Shove and just hope to take down the blinds cause usually a hand calling you here crushes us (or have the loose guy call AT AJ woot). Orrrr, min raise it up to keep the pot/stack ratio smaller on the flop.

you minraise/fold vs. everyone, right?

i did just shove btw.

The spot is probably a bit more interesting with AJo

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02-07-2010 , 02:53 PM

pepsimaxxx

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I can't think of any other option that shove

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02-07-2010 , 03:37 PM

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Glitlr

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Originally Posted by jurrasstoil

you minraise/fold vs. everyone, right?

i did just shove btw.

The spot is probably a bit more interesting with AJo

prob fold vs everyone. that one guy was loose, but passive loose. so meh. actually no i changed my mind. dont min raise. raise to 420 and get the pot smoker to lol call with atc cause you're making a shoutout to his lifestyle.

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02-07-2010 , 05:12 PM

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wobuffet

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Originally Posted by Glitlr

hahahaha

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02-07-2010 , 05:40 PM

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CastleBravo79

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FWIW, people tend to react to a 450 bet exactly the same as 500 imo, espesh so with BB being a tight player.

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02-08-2010 , 12:52 AM

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Ragnaer

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unexploitable shove preflop with a little over 10 BB's

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