#Game No : 7163166349
***** Hand History for Game 7163166349 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:40730616 Level:8 Blinds-Antes(400/800 -25) - Sunday, June 22, 22:08:06 ET 2008
Table $5k Gtd (1452909) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: DonkWithNutz ( 16,060 )
Seat 3: bubbleboybr ( 17,225 )
Seat 4: assi14 ( 43,815 )
Seat 6: mathlord ( 12,047 )
Seat 8: BeeJuicy ( 10,940 )
Seat 9: skadaha ( 23,049 )
Seat 10: hehro ( 8,105 )
Seat 5: paloma_la ( 2,945 )
Seat 7: Junglearms ( 9,985 )
Trny:40730616 Level:8
Blinds-Antes(400/800 -25)
DonkWithNutz posts ante [25]
bubbleboybr posts ante [25]
assi14 posts ante [25]
paloma_la posts ante [25]
mathlord posts ante [25]
Junglearms posts ante [25]
BeeJuicy posts ante [25]
skadaha posts ante [25]
hehro posts ante [25]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hehro 6 6
BeeJuicy folds
skadaha folds
hehro is all-In [8,080]
DonkWithNutz folds
bubbleboybr folds
assi14 folds
paloma_la folds
mathlord calls [7,680]
Junglearms folds

Do we like openshoving here with levels going up in two minutes giving us an M of 4ish? Or would you min raise and call shove/shove any flop?

Folded to you i think this has to be the bottom of your shoving range... certainly not minraise shove all flops. that is horrific.

bottom? no...I think (reads aside) this is a good spot...raising=bad...fold or shove and I like shove

I shoved, because I thought it was the reasonable thing to do because of the approaching new blind levels.
Got called by JTs


(and lost )

you get that your shove was correct then? He probably made a loose call so you had the flip with reasonable FE...

I have always thought my shove was correct, but several people who are consistently beating very high stakes tournament told me to fold this or to gayraise it up to look like a donkey AA/KK.

Personally I was happy to take a flip here since a double would afford me a lot of navigation space.

stick with your gut..shove was right....gay raise is a joke...shove big hands there too...mayyyyyyyyybe limp with AA/KK but I usually play those like 66 pre but a lot of that depends on table, your image and their aggression level

ssnyc, how far down do you go then? 33? 44? A3/A4+?

you're right an as I was typing it I rethought it...66 is the lower end but still a shove IMO