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: 5handed: KQs as bigstack facing raise : 5handed: KQs as bigstack facing raise

02-01-2012 , 12:52 PM
    On Game, $20 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 40 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: 2,838 (7.1 bb)
    Hero (BB): 5,500 (13.8 bb)
    MP: 2,502 (6.3 bb)
    CO: 1,890 (4.7 bb)
    BTN: 2,270 (5.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K Q
    MP raises to 1,000, 4 folds

    Results: 1,200 pot
    MP mucked and won 1,200 (760 net)







    i donīt know villain... my HUD said 21/7 over 15 hands filtered

    i played a little bit with wiz, but i canīt figure the right ranges vs unknowns in this spot...

    my thought was, that he seems nitty and i donīt need a race, because i have enough chips to find better spots

    what do you shove here?

    is call and push a nice flop an option? or a simple stopīnīgo? why? why not?
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    02-01-2012 , 01:02 PM
    It's just a huge fold, you can't afford to try and make a hand oop with 5 handed
    ICM, 7vpip even over small sample indicates monster here

    I would shove AK/TT+
    I think I would actually convince myself to fold TT so i'm probably lying about that.

    Why not stop and go? Because oppponents are starting to call flop with their entire range in 2012, with A high or any pair which they def already have in this hand
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    02-01-2012 , 02:16 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WTF.
    is call and push a nice flop an option? or a simple stopīnīgo? why? why not?
    Stopīnīgo = call and push flop

    Im with entim here, very easy fold. Im shoving a bit wider than entim though. While 21/7 is pretty tight I dont think villain folds hands like 77 or AJ often. I also dont think that his small raise size indicates a monster because guys like this one do small raises with their entire raising range all the time. Id even say that a guy with those stats is more likely to limp AA/KK.

    So my range is prolly something like AQ+/99+.
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    02-01-2012 , 02:37 PM
    thx so far!

    @ronny: the accentuation (is this the right word?) of the first sentence was "push a NICE flop" ... so i thought maybe i check/fold horrible flops instead of a stopīnīgo... dumb idea


    iīm glad i posted this hand, because it seems that my thought process in these spots is somtetimes way off...
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