converter dint work.
Do i call here?
saw him min raise a7o UTG couple of rounds back and he seemed slightly fishy.

PokerStars Game #22473595283: Tournament #122500792, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/11/29 21:24:38 CET [2008/11/29 15:24:38 ET]
Table '122500792 35' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: AssOfSpades (10745 in chips)
Seat 2: p.nescher (11815 in chips)
Seat 3: lethrnk (8545 in chips)
Seat 4: M[4][4] (5005 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: Gr7nder (9561 in chips)
Seat 6: kesaw (19129 in chips)
Seat 7: capoch (9625 in chips)
Seat 8: acepaul28 (10055 in chips)
Seat 9: hmu05744 (3015 in chips)
kesaw: posts small blind 75
capoch: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to capoch [4d Ad]
acepaul28: calls 150
hmu05744: folds
AssOfSpades: calls 150
p.nescher: folds
lethrnk: folds
M[4][4]: folds
Gr7nder: raises 361 to 511
kesaw: calls 436
capoch: calls 361
acepaul28: calls 361
AssOfSpades: calls 361
*** FLOP *** [4c 8c Ac]
kesaw: bets 150
capoch: calls 150
acepaul28: raises 9394 to 9544 and is all-in
AssOfSpades: folds
Gr7nder: folds
kesaw: folds
capoch: ?

I think preflop is pretty questionable. As far as on the flop raise/folding the initial bettor would make this decision much easier. I see A4 at the bottom of his shoving range, and even if he is shoving combos like AsKc, we are only slightly ahead. Muck this fairly quickly IMO.

Preflop is fine with your stacks.

The flop decision boils down to whether or not KcXx is in his range. He's obv capable of doing this with AxXc, a baby flush, and possibly, but a bit less likely, a set. Merge these together and you've got a call at hand. Add KcXx, and you've got a fold IMO.

fold.

snap call, see top pair + flush draw, cry when club hits or board pairs.

Edited: I also think you'll see a scared set played this way alot.

i tend to pitch this pre too, but w/e. I can't see myself ever folding now though. hit the 4 on the turn just to be safe.

i like this strategy if you do call.

Yes, but when you fold, it sucks

I don't know if I agree w/ the logic that cards magically become playable preflop with deeper stacks. Sure, we can take a bit the worst of it pre if we can expect to make it up post, but the deeper stacks are, the more important position becomes to getting value. Particularly w/ a hand that gets a lot of its value from draws, I think position is pretty important to whether or not the hand is playable. It's close in this spot, but I think fold is better.

Call flop shove obv.

You are right about position being an important factor, but despite being OOP I think we have enough implied here if our opponents are fairly loose post. I once heard from a HU SnG grinder that what separates the pros from the regulars is how they play OOP...

Im not sure about my pre flop call but i dont think its a big mistake really, maybe slightly -EV but no much. Anyway, i convinced myslef he had some KcXx hand and called, obv up against flush and dont hit my 4outer.

FMP. I must have been pretty blazed to swap fold with call, vice versa