B/f river as played

how can you b/f vs 2. villain? like what does he check back that has you beat ott

42,700

What do they raise the river with that we have beat?

it depends who raises the river, if mp1 shoves i would probably fold

if mp1 folds and mp2 shoves i would probably call

Really? I think MP2 is the more likely candidate for QT.

Either way, I expect to get raised almost never, but I think it is a crying fold if we do.

the last player to act i dub as less likely to have the nutz since they would either value raise the flop or bet the turn given that they want to build the pot, i believe a flush draw appeared and obv being that it's multiway you will probably get called in at least one spot

the first player i can understand having the nutz and just flatting the donk lead to not lose the other player and as for the turn checking hoping they will bet although they might very well bet themselves and in this hand it is very possible that no one has QT

I don't completely disagree with anything you've said, but I just see things a little differently in trying to interpret a really strange hand.

Speaking of, I'd love to see results eventually. I am quite puzzled.

c/c flop it's not like you have top 2


25-35k/fold otr to extract value from AQ imo.



and you shoulda considered this before flatting pre. I'm not in love vs 3x

Infinitely more likely they check turn with a big hand then shove KQ or whatever OTR. Trivial b/f.

In hindsight, betsizing might be a bit too big even for a value bet if planning to b/f. Subconsciously (or consciously) I guess I had already decided to b/c and just maximize value OTR. Might be incorrect line of thinking, but I really felt turn play dictated going for maximizing value instead of making a smaller value bet in order to b/f if necessary. I felt there are so few times that we are raised here by Q10/AJ (from turn action) that maximizing value OTR seems to be the correct play.

You'd fold pre? Really?

Who would shove KQ or whatever? Not sure what you mean there.

I would love to say that I'd bet/fold this spot, just because what can we possibly be beating if raised OTR. But then again, what hand that beats us takes that line on the turn? Q10? AJ? Can't really see either checking turn back with flush draw out there.

But you're right. What do we beat OTR if raised? Air, missed flush draw, Ax/AQ spew, misclicks, ect. I really don't know what I would have done if raised. I think both villains are standard enough players that they would bet any hand better than mine on the turn. So I couldn't possibly see the blank river helping them, so I'd have to make the call and pray no Q10.

quite often I would. vs a tight 3x range and a call you're going to be winning small pots or losing big ones especially oop. snap calling 89s 9Ts. KJs is alot more marginal imo.