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11-05-2010 , 01:11 PM
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DONT FOLD
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11-05-2010 , 01:23 PM
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we dont know how he plays in this situation just because he played 35/3 before with deeper stacks

has he ever been in this spot with deeper stacks with 77? we just dont know...

not folding
This. Folding in this situation requires extensive knowledge of the player you simply don't have. Your sample includes M ranges that have little to no bearing on villains play at this M range. Like I said, get it in, TIME FOR STARCRAFT.
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11-05-2010 , 01:49 PM
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This. Folding in this situation requires extensive knowledge of the player you simply don't have. Your sample includes M ranges that have little to no bearing on villains play at this M range. Like I said, get it in, TIME FOR STARCRAFT.
wat? Im not sure whats going on in this thread.

120 hands is a decent sample size and that sample suggests that shoving here is pretty bad.

We can't just be like 'we haz 1010 instapush!1!!!'
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11-05-2010 , 02:16 PM
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Villain range here JJ+, AK. Thats being generous thinking that he 3bets same hands he makes initial raise with. We are 2:1 dog to that range.

If we lose we are out. I would pick a better spot.
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11-05-2010 , 03:01 PM
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this is a super easy fold. villain has JJ+, AK here always. it's his first 3bet in 120 hands!

min-raise pre though.
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11-05-2010 , 03:17 PM
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Is it OK to have a raise/folding range with a M under 8?

Personally I'm open shoving or raise/calling almost all the time. Like here I'd be shoving something like 44-99, ATs+,AJ,T9s,JTs,QTs,KTs and raise/call with TT+,AK.
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11-06-2010 , 07:28 AM
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Not folding here. Got to remember the majority of stats for this guy were taken when he had a stack greater than M of 8 so using them to narrow his range so much is wrong. TT Is doing fine here. Raise folding TT is more -EV than Raise Calling
TT + <M10 = ALL IN
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11-06-2010 , 08:26 AM
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Not folding here. Got to remember the majority of stats for this guy were taken when he had a stack greater than M of 8 so using them to narrow his range so much is wrong. TT Is doing fine here. Raise folding TT is more -EV than Raise Calling
TT + <M10 = ALL IN
Thats giving him credit for adjusting to greater blinds>stack size which many people with those stats just aren't aware of.
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11-06-2010 , 08:44 AM
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Not folding here. Got to remember the majority of stats for this guy were taken when he had a stack greater than M of 8 so using them to narrow his range so much is wrong. TT Is doing fine here. Raise folding TT is more -EV than Raise Calling
TT + <M10 = ALL IN
eh...it's just so damn easy to chip up at most $2 rebuy tables that I can't get on board with this as a generalization.
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11-06-2010 , 09:34 AM
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its a easy fold against a nit of that level, he has QQ,AK+
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11-06-2010 , 11:50 AM
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Thats giving him credit for adjusting to greater blinds>stack size which many people with those stats just aren't aware of.
this
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11-06-2010 , 12:06 PM
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with that read and ur tighter image I would fold
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